• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Bill Burr, the King of Ambivalence.

    He says a lot of stuff that’s dead on right, then he turns around and says some beleif that makes him a dick.

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      I actually love Bill Burr and he is the only comedian that makes me laugh out loud in front of the TV. :)

      I know its not all funny and some things are weird but that’s fine for me. Its not often I actually do laugh out loud like crazy at someone. He says what I want to say in some social situations but I don’t. :)

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    What a coincidence I was just listening to the smashing pumpkins on the way home

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    I don’t know who this is. Bill Burr according to the comments. I still don’t know who he is.

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      So you have all the information that you could ask for, but decided to brag about your ignorance? I’m not saying you have to know who Bill Burr is, but this comment feels pointless.

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      A red headed comedian fuck that pretends to speak truth to power while also taking money from Saudi Arabia and he also hates women.

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    Fuck Bill Burr in his stupid fucking ass.

    It’s so rare that I have a modicum of respect for anyone but this guy was somebody who I had a ton of respect for right up until the minute of that fucking blood money bone saw bullshit.

    I stopped watching all of the comedians that partook in that, but Bill was the one that was the biggest kick in the balls.

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      Yeah, Bill of all people felt like a real backstab, the man’s selling out MSG, I don’t think he needed the money.

      Only thing I’ve heard of hi. since was when Conan had him on his podcast. His explanation somewhat softened my view, but still, you can’t constantly bitch about billionaires and censorship and then go do Riyadh.

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        It’s not too surprising. I used to listen to the Monday Morning Podcast regularly, until (I think) 2019, when he went on a long rant about (my words) how stressful and burdensome it was to have a lot of money, because you’re constantly having to guard it, and manage it, and be afraid of losing it. Not like how easy it is to be a poor schlub, because you don’t have all that pressure to maintain an affluent lifestyle. I had heard him rant many times about how he’s a comedian, so he says that a lot of things that aren’t meant to be taken seriously. But, there was an edge to that poor-little-rich-man rant which didn’t sound like a joke. Maybe. But it’s a well-known effect of wealth that it decreases one’s empathy, and that it can happen to anybody.

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    I love Bill Burr, saw him like 5 times live.

    The thing is that, he was really on our side calling out a lot of the craziness. It’s hard to overlook the Riyadh thing. I haven’t followed him since, I still don’t know if he apologized or anything.

    Still don’t know why he needed to … his career was on the up.

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      He seemed to be taken by surprise at the blowback from Riyadh. His reasoning was “the governments can suck, but the people are great. I perform for the people.” It’s a viewpoint convenient to his wallet, but now he doesn’t really bring it up.

      He still sees his job is to speak truth to power and always punch up, not down, but I believe he is also ignorant of the totality of the Saudi’s evil. I’d rather try to bring him over to us than cast his voice aside.

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        Even Shane Gillis had the wherewithal to turn the offer down. Bill knew he was selling out and played the victim when people called him out for it. He put a price on his authenticity and sold it right off.

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        If he admitted he fucked up because he didn’t know, I think he should get a pass. Not knowing every bad thing every group of people do shouldn’t be punished, there’s to many to keep track unfortunately. His response was very much lacking though.

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        Every government in the world does tremendous evil if you look carefully enough. If boycotting comedy in horrible countries was a prerequisite for comedy, we would have no comedy.

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            Exactly. I also don’t fuck with anyone who performs for Trump.

            Granted, that’s a pretty easy sacrifice given the level of talent Trump attracts.

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              Then you may want to look into some of the corporations and owners that run the stadiums comedians perform in. When he and john Stewart and a bunch of othes performed in Madison square garden a few days back, owned by trumps rich buddy, or basically any of the major venues in the USA, no one said anything. No one is innocent under capitalism, if you make money in this environment you have blood on your hands every day.

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                  The money and power that person gets from their commerce makes that a pretty silly distinction, imo. I think the problem is really the story we tell our minds is easier to picture with a cartoon villain present in daily media we consume.

                  With that said, if I was in his shoes I wouldn’t have performed there, so im not exactly ready to die on this hill. I just think some of the lines we draw seem arbitrary, and stopping watching these comedians that have made all sorts of evil billionaires money, just because of one show under a shithead, seems silly.

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                There’s effectively a monopoly on stadiums in the US (see Macklemore’s recent failure to secure stadiums for a US leg of his Free Palestine tour). Is there any way for an entertainer to have significant commercial success without getting in bed with a shitty steaming service, distributer or venue?

                No one is innocent under capitalism, if you make money in this environment you have blood on your hands every day.

                Yeah, I know this. But what is your point? Are you saying we should all just starve in the streets on principle? That we should just fuckit and YOLO cuz we can’t be perfect? That I should STFU about my ethical choices because no one can make perfect ethical choices in this late stage capitalist hellscape?

                Maybe we should normalize accepting and maybe even celebrating people’s efforts to be a little better? I love cheese but I can admire someone for being an ethical Vegan.

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                  I largely agree with much of what you’re saying. I just think people draw lines in odd ways. Bill burrs comedy subverts all of the commerce he supports. He seems to want the same type of people he makes money, to die. But everyone should cancel him over one show? His work is culturally supporting things we believe in. Certainly people should draw lines in the sand, but they should also look at the big picture.

                  Are you saying we should all just starve in the streets on principle?

                  Obviously the opposite, I’m saying people exist in a world filled to the brim with shitty people and connections to those shitty people are inevitable, especially if you gain success. I could probably find at least one cancelable offense in every famous person you respect, given enough time, probably everyone you know personally as well. We are quick to toss people aside in today’s world without taking the totality of who people are. If the totality of who they are is shitty that’s one thing, but if they are already a reasonably decent person this moral purity test is ridiculous.

                  Bill burrs response that he was told he could say what he wants, and it felt like in opportunity to reach an audience living under a strict authority, seems perfectly consistent with the rest of his public persona.

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                And nobody would care if the the saudi regime got money out of a comedy show. This is not what the festival did was it?

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    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Brabeck clarify drinking water is a human right, and water for irrigation or for your front lawn is what should be taxed? I keep seeing this kind of meme brought up, and I think the same thing every time

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    All you people condemning Bill Burr like you all wouldn’t do horrible things for a million and a half bucks.

    I’ve done unspeakable things for twenty dollars.

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      if I were already worth $20M, no, I wouldn’t do horrible things for $2M

      but my net worth is negative because of my mortgage, and I still need to work to live. and let’s not talk about retirement.

      look, I’m comfortable and fairly well off, I acknowledge that. but $2M would mean I would have retirement funded, a paid off home, and flexibility for work. $2M to Bill Burr doesn’t mean the same.

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          I’m not saying I wouldn’t do it for the money.

          That being said, I’d like to believe “SMCF would own up to the horrible thing they did for 20$.” If I did the horrible thing, you’d expect me to own up to it. I’d like him to own the horrible thing too.

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      What?? It’s not like he needed the money. I’d give a pass to a struggling up-and-comer, but he’s got enough money to be able to hold to some principles without suffering hardship

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      I’m not saying I wouldn’t do it for $1.5 million, but I dont have $1.5 million.

      If you were to pay me, IDK, $500 to go comedywash Saudi Arabia, I wouldn’t.

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      Even you wouldn’t stoop to dancing around for such evil mfers though, would you? Seriously. Bill was already rich. He made a grotesque choice and then doubled down on it over and over since, telling his upset fan base to shut the fuck up about it. Fuck Bill. He never really deserved our support at all.

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        There’s the thing. If I had a couple mil in the bank, knew I could make another couple mil in the next year, and a piece of shit came up to me and said, “I’ll give you a couple mil to do one show,” it would be pretty easy to say no. It’s just a year’s income and isn’t going to change my life. If I was just getting by or even doing okay and some piece of shit offered me 1.5 mil, well, that could have me retiring in 5 or 10 years, being able to look for a job I’d be happier with, or any number of significantly life-changing things. Bill would had just had to wait a little longer to get this things.