Zos_Kia

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  • They had nothing to do with it but if they had voted, the US and to some extent the world wouldn’t be in this mess. And they’re trying to blame Dem strategists for their own failure to do the easiest thing, which was to hold your nose and vote for a stinking liberal rather than let a literal fascist win.

    Western electorates are so deep in the main character syndrome that when they fail they have to spin it as somebody else’s strategic error. Classic golden child bullshit.




  • I don’t think it’s that different, actually. People have been dying for new policies that benefit real voters instead of corporate interests, but no luck. The democratic party establishment is in the way and has been for decades

    I don’t disagree but was it that obvious to the average voter in 2024 after a year of full on pro-trump media blitz?

    When a candidate loses by 20 points it’s easy to guess what their mistake was. When they lose by 1.5% I find out a whole less obvious. It’s all hypotheticals but really there was no guarantee a leftist candidate would have done better. Maybe yes, maybe no.

    In France in 2022 we had a good example of a deeply unpopular status quo candidate winning over both the leftist and the fascist candidates. The fascist would have steamrolled the leftist in a heart beat if they had both gotten to the second turn.

    Just because we have personal preference for leftist candidates doesn’t make them win elections.




  • Zos_KiatoLate Stage Capitalism@lemmy.world39 years
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    If you take a look at USSR economic growth over time you’ll see that it is very linear with very few accidents. Over the same time period, US economy goes a bit faster by contorting itself into fits and spurts and crisis after crisis.

    Some would say that makes the communist economy better, as it’s somewhat slower but more reliable and predictable. But capitalists hate it because in a rational economy they can’t bet on booms and busts.

    So, yeah, it definitely did work and if there hadn’t been an arms race and a cold war the Soviet union probably wouldn’t have collapsed.



  • For sure the cat is now out of the bag and they would be stupid to do the same thing in 2028. But in 2024 it was a coin toss, and there was no guarantee an actual leftist would fare any better. It’s hard to love Kamala but she still managed to move 48% of voters so it’s not like she got steamrolled.

    Today things have changed and it’s easier to imagine a radical winning. A leftist populist that really feels like an anti system vote could probably get something done. And it could get pretty spicy as there are no more norms and the power of the US president has expanded considerably so that’s an interesting thought.


  • Sorry but no. A candidate that loses by 1.5% is far from a candidate that was “going to lose regardless”.

    People act like it was this huge strategic blunder but it’s easy to talk shit once the battle is lost. Democratic socialists were not particularly popular outside of your online social circle, maybe they’d have tanked even harder.

    Now I understand, if you opted to sit this one out, that it feels better to tell yourself Harris was going to lose anyway. But in 2024 every vote counted and every non voter was a willing ally of the trump regime.