• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I cannot recommend Ray Bradbury’s “Zen in the Art of Writing” enough!

    It’s a great collection of essay’s about creativity and writing that never fails to light a fire under my ass and get me out making things.

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    I used meth to write my book (I genuinely have an ADHD component to my mental health but it still fucked my brain and I’ve been clean two n a half years), but now I just brute force this ish. I mean, I smoke weed. Drink maybe once a week. And I masturbate to achieve ecstatic gnosis, obviously (and NOT on offbrand Walmart Benadryl anymore), but I shit out 2k-7k words a day by being agnetic, which means I always go above the call of duty, voluntarily, and I’ve done this for about twelve years, sew I r a gud @ righting automatikly liek fer reel d00d.

    Don’t focus on the book. Focus on you, growing as tall as you can living your best life, and the books will essentially fall out of you as long as you’ve done the work to get where you need to be.

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        God had me invent it. Complicated to explain, assume schizophrenia if you don’t know about the topological matrix you are, but there’s this word, supererogatory, which means to go beyond the call of duty. The hallmark example is stopping a purse snatcher. But, you can be forced to go beyond the call of duty. Thus, agneticism is what allowed humanity to rise out of Eden through the Agricultural Revolution, learning what objective good and bad are in the system they are not in but rather are.

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    cocaine tbh if you can’t make something fantastix blitz out of your mind on coke you can’t make something good sober

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    There are authors who have a plot beforehand and there are authors who are as exited while writing as readers afterwards. Both ways can work when executed well.

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      Garden style can work really well when for creativity, but there’s part of my brain that remembers winds of winter probably isn’t ever coming out, and I feel sad.

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    There are only a couple pieces of writing advice I see people consistently agree on:

    1. Write something consistently, even when you don’t want to. If you’re a full time writer, that might be at least one page a day. If it’s just a hobby, it could be less. The important thing is to keep what you are writing somewhere in your head to keep the creative juices flowing eventually.

    2. Read. Read good books/stories to give you an idea of what to do and what’s been done when writing. Read mediocre or even bad books/stories to give you an idea of what not to do and what’s been overdone in writing.

    3. Learn about or experience some stuff to help spark ideas for writing.

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      1. Maybe 3a. If you can afford, go someplace new and see if the new environment, new food, new people, if it sparks something in you. Best cure for a writing rut is a new rut
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      To point 3, I heard some author point out, and I think it makes a lot of sense, that reading bad writing can maybe tell you what not to do, but there’s so much good writing out there, more than you could read in a lifetime, that it just doesn’t make sense not to read all the best books. If you read in a world of excellent writing your standards are that high and you can still take lessons from the worst of the best.

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    Never outline. Just wing it, let it rest for a while (days, weeks, month) and then read it again. That last piece of advise is also from Stephen King. I believe from the newer preface of the Dark Tower series.

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        To be fair he’s been sober longer since being sober to now than from being published to getting sober. But I don’t doubt that in the early years it helped write through some worse times.

        Though if you read on writing the dude made a shitload of money from Carrie and I think his next novel to buy an awesome house.

        Okay doubled checked 200k (what he made from Carrie) in 74 is worth about 1.3 million now (though probably over years I just did the inflation calculator from its release). Dude won the lottery on his first novel and kept writing … Well some great some not as fun, but never technically awful. Though opinions differ for sure. I always enjoyed his books overall, first novel I read over 1000 pages, and way too young IT.

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      I do this when writing code too, I don’t always submit it the same day I finish sometimes I wait to come back to it and see what my dumbass wrote

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        Cocaine gets recommended to writers / creatives all the time because (in my experience) cocaine makes it easier to write without editing / criticizing in real time. Your internal critic just gets overwhelmed by your internal cheerleader telling you everything you’re doing is awesome and it makes it much easier to just get something onto the page. It is possible to learn how to do this much more economically without cocaine, but a lot of writers who start using cocaine never figure out how to do that part without it. And there’s the whole addiction thing that makes writing a lot harder the longer you use it. Really tough to try to be creative when you’re jonesing.

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          Cocaine is the least useful substance in the creative substance (or so I’m told). Good old legal marijuana (thank you Trudeau), is probably the best all round, and if you use a typewriter, you might find you start typing to a rhythm.

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          Your internal critic just gets overwhelmed by your internal cheerleader telling you everything you’re doing is awesome and it makes it much easier to just get something onto the page.

          The only way I was able to finish my final paper in college was adderal + weed + booze. I used to be completely unable to write anything because the internal critic.

          Now, I do 5 minute free writes on paper. Set a timer, no corrections, do not stop writing until the timer goes off, reword the sentence you just wrote if you can’t think of anything else.

          Also weed still. Weed lets me write and write, and write…

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            His internal editor screamed “no they were supposed to be playing with model trains. Like weird 55 year olds. Or cool 55 year olds who get way too into it so their sets are badass. It’s a sign of them turning into weird slash cool 55 year old men look I like model trains” and instead we got, well, Cocaine Stephen

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      The outline is like a scaffold for a building. Very helpful early on, but if it’s still standing when you’re done, you’ve done it wrong

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        However sometimes it’s better to put it down for a while and go to something else. Just like with anything, you can get burned out and fixated on details, redoing things over and over in a circle.

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    Stephen King’s book On Writing is a pretty good resource for advice for aspiring writers.

    For the high level points, writers should write. A lot. That’s his biggest piece of advice.

    Writers should also try to “expand their toolbox”, meaning they should be able to use different methods. Just keep practicing writing with the tools you have and the techniques and tools you discover. Eventually, you’ll find what works for you. You can’t just expect to use a tool proficiently without practice. But everybody is different, so in the case of outlining, for example, if you practice with it and it just doesn’t work, then you’ll eventually know that it won’t work for you.

    The last big point is to develop writing habits. Like, follow a specific daily schedule. Write a certain number of words each day.

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        IIRC, in On Writing, the bad habit he spends most of his time talking about is his drinking. And he claimed that when they took his booze away, he started drinking mouthwash. He was so blackout drunk for so long that he doesn’t remember writing one of his books. I think it was Cujo.

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      I love to write but I also love doing lots of things so I only end up just writing verbose internet comments sporadically instead.

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    If you want to write effectively, you need to sit by a cafe window and look out at the street while it’s raining. If someone asks you what your book is about, sigh heavily, then say that it’s a think piece about furries in space.