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    As someone who has spent plenty of time on 4chan. It’s people from all over the world just wanting to be hugged, they are miserable but it’s because they want to be loved.

    My 4chan experience is using the video game board almost exclusively for over a decade.

    The right wingers hate black people and trans people and all only look for porn with black people or trans people.

    4chan exists beyond the understanding of regular people. It’s lunacy, it’s maddening. But it’s fun.

    Right wingers keep trying to force their nonsense ideals and then they go to the porn boards and look at interracial cuckolding and trans porn… They hate themselves and they take it out on the rest of us.

    I am not an American, I’ve got so many problems with my own country.

    Good luck to you Trans people… I’m a straight white man from Australia and I’m sleeping on the couch unable to avoid how scared I am of my Chinese wife. Anxiety and depression live in my brain telling me to kill myself all the time.

    I wish I could be born with a different brain. Sorry that was insensitive… You’ve lived your entire life that way… I’m only at about year 25 living 37 years.

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      When I watched the Q-anon documentary, the people who ran 8 chan looked exactly what I thought they would look like.

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      Think of all the Republicans who get outed as gay. It’s why Grindr gets overloaded when the RNC comes into town.

      A bunch of closeted folk who can’t accept themselves end up in the Republican party and turning into some of the most hateful and spiteful people imaginable who just want others to hurt as well.

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    Speaking as someone who was a born nihilist, atheism ain’t got shit to do with that, you were just a reactionary turd. Get in to goth like a normal person.

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      I get it, I too had an angsty teenage atheist phase (minus the abuse and arson), took a while and the folks just stopped trying to get me up for church. This is why most religions have a “coming of age” event where you are recognized as an adult and choose to stay with the group. I would guess most parents dont know how to react when their kid makes that decision for themselves before then…

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        That’s very true, we never believed in Christmas/religion but never spoiled/ruined it for others, it was their enjoyment.

        Granted when we have a kid, we don’t think we’ll be telling them that “Santa is just a famous character of Christmas, and some people have fun believing he’s real, so don’t ruin their fun either” or something like that. Still have plenty of years to think of how to word it better lol :P

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          I never got the talk about Santa. I think my parents just assumed that I was intelligent enough to be able to work it out on my own, which I was. I’m sure at some point I did believe in Santa but I can’t remember ever believing, I knew it was just my dad, but I got presents so I didn’t care.

          Kids can be quite pragmatic.

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          Granted when we have a kid, we don’t think we’ll be telling them that “Santa is just a famous character of Christmas, and some people have fun believing he’s real, so don’t ruin their fun either”

          Sorry if I’m misreading this, but personally I don’t see a problem in telling your own kids that Santa isn’t real.

          You can still give gifts if you want, and having them be addressed from people you care about makes it more meaningful tbh. Plus, it’s kinda fucked up to normalize lying to your kids

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            I grew up very poor. My mother made it clear that Santa wasn’t real, because there’s no way she’s giving another old white man undue credit.

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            Yes, we also fund it very fucked up to lie to a kid about how some random ass guy is stalking your every move to determine if your a good or bad person and thats the determination if having presents or nothing at all.

            However, its not our place to tell other parent’s kids that Santa isn’t real, and telling our kid its just a popular character would be not only the truth but also easier for them to explain. Like a mascot of some sort yk?

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            Yeah, its pretty obvious peoppe are lying anout Santa once you realize the North Pole has no land.

            Santa clearly is from the South Pole.

            Pretty genius actually, getting people to look for him on the opposite side of the planet.

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            Something to consider: do you want to normalize lying to your kid? I realize that’s an antagonistic way to phrase it, but that’s pretty much what’s happening

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              This is such a boring thing that people say all the time.

              Lying is normal. You should be lying. Lying isn’t morally wrong if it is not done for morally wrong reasons. My child should be lying to me. I should be lying to my child.

              And my children will understand the difference between lying to e.g. prevent a surprise to be ruined and lying to avoid facing consequences.

              It is such a black and white thinking. It is so boring too. I will teach my children violence because 1 day, they might need it too.

              And sidenote: e.g. telling your child that they can “trust” the security or the police if they get lost in a large crowd, is a lie. But one that is true enough that the child is safer with them than alone in a crowd. Telling your child that e.g. a electrical signal is travelling from the tv station through a wire to your tv, would be a lie if there is some fiber cables somewhere between them, or a satellite connection. Yes, simplifications are lying. We will lie anyway to enable them to navigate the far too complex world and slowly learn about the real underlying complexities.

              And obviously, there is a difference between making them write letters to Santa and telling them Santa brings gifts for Christmas.

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                Nothing in life is black and white, we do agree on that, but when our child comes to ask who should they trust, we would say: any social worker such as a police officer, fireman, medic, social worker, anyone you can find. If you can’t find anyone then go to a big store and tell them your lost or need help. Overall would make sure they remover our number or at least where we live (on a map) similar to how our dad was with us.

                As for the little things, well they’re going to ask you a lot of questions!! And the joy is to help guide them to an answer, help them discover a solution, make it fun for them to learn and discover!

                Do you have satellite TV/antenna? Then look up and research and read all about it with them! Show them what an satellite attena/normal attena looks like and point to the satellites above among the stars! Look up the satellites, there are public maps, make a weekend trip to the local science center/museum and they might even have a satellite on display, or better yet more fantastic things for them to ask questions!

                If you have wired tv, the same process! Talk about how light works and how we found ways to make glass send signals! How those signals are sent and more and more! They’ll get more and more curious about the world and its wonders and want to learn more and more about it!

                Shrugging it off and giving an half assed answer imo isn’t lying, it’s neglecting the question and their curiosity. We want our child to ask as many questions- more than we can answer!! Make them curious to their fingertips and go to the library with us and read all the books they can ever want. Grow up curious hungry for answers, and show them how wonderful our world is!

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                  I agree with you. My point is simply that I will “lie” to them in some ways. I have to lie to them that social workers are “safe” to help them to find us while knowing that dangerous people would seek out these jobs. And I will have to make it seem safer as it is because a young child is unable to understand the concept of likelihood. And I want them to start talking to a stranger (e.g. the policeman), they need the confidence that it is safe.

                  Eventually, they will understand that we are simplying things when we taught them about the world.

                  In both cases, I don’t think a child will feel like we were lying them. Just like I didn’t feel lied to.

                  “Normalizing lying” is just a silly critic.

                  I am opposed to making them write Santa a letter or making them “meet” Santa. As i think there is a difference between

                  • telling them about the concept
                  • letting them watch a christmas movies
                  • maybe telling them that Santa comes when they go to bed

                  And making them interact with “santa”.

                  That is my line. I am not saying, it is better or worse than yours or theirs. But that discussion is on a different level than “Normalizing lying”.

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                  What argument? You parroted an question. That you think you made an argument, highlights that you parroted the question. Even if you want to understand the question as an argument, a basic inspection of the implied premise that lying is bad, is enough to dismiss the argument as lazy and surface-level.

                  If you don’t like it when people call your output boring, say something worthwhile.

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          My dad beat the shit out of me

          I don’t think it was so much about religion or ruining it for others.

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    science doesnt allow chocolate to be grown on trees

    Not with that attitude it doesnt. Give us a few hundred years and we’ll have them growing it fully formed, with caramel inside.

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    Anon learns the hard way that for most families, Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity especially when kids are involved.

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    Sounds like Atheism, like all belief systems, empowered an asshole with self-righteous validation. Even if you bet on the right horse, it doesn’t mean everything you do is automatically justified; empathy is a higher order law.

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      empathy is a higher order law.

      Anon forgot that having an asshole doesn’t mean you should regularly act like one.

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      Atheism isn’t really a belief system by itself. It can refer to a lot of things, including positive atheism (the claim that there is not/cannot be a god/supernatural entity), negative atheism (the lack of belief in a deity due to lack of evidence), the absence of religion and many other things. Militant atheism, on the other hand, definitely counts and is susceptible to all the failings you mentioned.

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        It’s not called militant atheism, you’re describing anti-theism. I’ve never heard of atheism claiming definitively that there are no deities or higher powers either, just that since there’s no evidence the claims aren’t worth consideration and can be dismissed as nonsense.

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          I believe what you are describing is Agnosticism, which questions the existence of God but doesn’t claim there isn’t one either.

          Atheism afaik does claim that something like a God can’t/doesn’t exist (or Anti-theism).

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      Like every religion, I’ve met good ones and bad ones. People just pretend there aren’t bad atheists for some reason.

      I call bad atheism “The Cult of the Void”. They believe that, after you die, there is just oblivion. They have no more empirical evidence for this than any other belief system, but they’re absolutely convinced they’re correct, and will shit on everyone else’s beliefs as being “unscientific”. I’ve seen them reduce kids to tears, framing death as a terrifying and brutal thing. They seem obsessed with death, it’s the centrepoint of their religion.

      They usually recruit by bullying and negging people into believing their beliefs are stupid, and framing their religion as the only logical one. In the presence of any other religion or spiritual practices, they get petulant and usually start harassing people. God forbid anyone have any other culture.

      The good atheists are respectful and curious. They don’t share the belief, but they’ll participate, or politely decline. They don’t harass people or denigrate their beliefs. They probably outnumber the bad ones, but it’s the whole “vocal minority” thing that makes it seem like they’re everywhere. You don’t notice the quiet ones that are just existing happily.

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        I call bad atheism “The Cult of the Void”. They believe that, after you die, there is just oblivion. They have no more empirical evidence for this than any other belief system

        How about that your entire world is constructed based on your brain and if that goes so does everything else? You can even temporarily change your world with drugs, some people are born with naturally damaged brains, schizophrenics believe people are chasing them even when they’re not for example

        It’s a bit like saying if you lose a leg it doesn’t go to another dimension it just dies, same thing with your brain, there is no evidence to suggest the synapses that compose and construct your world suddenly transform into some angel dust and transport you to another dimension

        I’ve seen them reduce kids to tears, framing death as a terrifying and brutal thing.

        Why would death be scary? You get a free preview every night 😃

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          By your definition dreams are not death. Unless you’re one of those people that have no dreams at all, in which case my condolences.

          The rest of your argument has nothing to do with anything. Schizophrenia, drugs, brain damage, none of that matters at all. You’re extrapolating an afterlife based on unrelated data. You’re trying to prove the unprovable using “science” that doesn’t make sense and grasping for straws.

          The fact is, you don’t know for sure, you just have very strong faith in your own beliefs. Which is fine, it doesn’t bother me what other people choose to believe in. But it doesn’t make your beliefs “better” or “more scientific” than anyone else’s beliefs. It’s just popular right now for some reason. There was a time when Christianity was considered scientifically obvious as well, you know.

          Also why are you using multiple alt accounts to post here? Seems a bit strange.

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            The fact is, you don’t know for sure, you just have very strong faith in your own beliefs.

            This is literally just projection on your end. Every. Single. Religion. assumes an afterlife that they describe. The “afterlife” of Atheism you describe is just following the idea of the “null hypothesis” from the scientific method. Go look it up of Wikipedia and educate yourself.

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        People just pretend there aren’t bad atheists for some reason.

        What are you talking about? >90% of the time it’s the other way around. Most of the time, people don’t think about atheism unless they’re bashing them.

        I call bad atheism “The Cult of the Void”. They believe that, after you die, there is just oblivion. They have no more empirical evidence for this than any other belief system,

        Just stop, you don’t understand what you’re talking about. The idea behind it is “we have no evidence for any of the claims so we must stick with the default hypothesis of ‘nothing’”. It’s basic scientific method.

        They usually recruit by bullying and negging people into believing their beliefs are stupid

        No, they don’t. Just the assholes, which are a minority. Meanwhile every religion tries to brainwash kids while they’re young, often threatening them with eternal hellfire if they step out of line.

        The good atheists are respectful and curious.

        Well this is going in a good direction at least

        They don’t share the belief

        So the “good” ones are the ones that only sit down and shut up? Fuck off with that. There’s a spectrum of ways to respectfully share your own opinions

        You don’t notice the quiet ones that are just existing happily.

        You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, but

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          also i think half of your discussion with that person is kinda funny and just full of misunderstandings and stuff like

          “i like dogs.” – “OH SO YOU HATE CATS UH? I GOT YOU IN 4K AND YOU’RE CANCELED”

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          for point 1 that’s likely true but I think they probably meant in a certain group like some specific atheist group or in their experience idk.

          2 fair enough.

          3 They did mention those were “the bad ones” if I remember correctly, I think you just quite said the samr thing they said.

          So the “good” ones are the ones that only sit down and shut up? Fuck off with that. There’s a spectrum of ways to respectfully share your own opinions

          They said politely decline too. I mean sure you could idk discuss stuff or idk. In this specific scenario you decline or accept so like it’s just about the way you decline in this specific situation.

          You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, but”

          hehe “I’m not racist butt” – “ok”

          I like asdfmovie

          Anyways I was saying Idk I don’t think it was in bad faith or uh, the person might’ve maybe been somewhat misinformed idk how to spell. But yea I probably should’ve read the response to your comment before writing this to gather more info lolz. I read it says you identofy with the bad type of atheist but I think it’s just more likely you like just skimmrd the comment or something silly.

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          Self identifying as the asshole type with your hateful response. I don’t mind people sharing their views and beliefs. I do mind when people say theirs is the only correct / logical one. I find that almost every atheist in online spaces is insufferable like this.

          Of course there’s people who will read the Bible and ignore the parts they don’t agree with and then hit their kids. That’s kind of the point of this entire thread, that being a jerk isn’t actually tied to your religion at all, people will always find a way to be unkind.

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            Your entire comment is full of bad faith arguments and bias.

            It’s clear from your words that you think all atheists are assholes, inferior, or both, and you’re not actually looking for a discussion.

            In this thread you’ve done nothing but demonstrate that you’re intellectually and morally bankrupt while trying to pretend that everyone else is the problem.

            Get over yourself.

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              I never said all, and I never said they’re inferior. I’m pointing out a real problem where a lot of atheists act with prejudice to all religion and spiritual people. They often believe they’re morally and intellectually superior, while pretending that all religion is the problem, and use bad faith arguments (using your own words, thanks for proving my points).

              Some of the smartest, kindest people I know happen to be religious, but you would condemn them. There’s nothing stopping you from being someone that respects others’ beliefs, who happens to be atheist. We don’t have to be incompatible, and it confuses me why you choose to be.

              If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs, and don’t call them stupid or illogical or unscientific. Try reflecting on why my list of grievances upsets you so much. Do they sound familiar maybe?

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                Some of the smartest, kindest people I know happen to be religious, but you would condemn them.

                Would I? You have no idea. You don’t know me; you’re clearly making things up because you don’t actually want address yourown biases.

                If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs,

                When did I do that? All I did was call you out ob your dishonest arguements regarding Atheism.

                We don’t have to be incompatible, and it confuses me why you choose to be.

                I’m arguing against you because you’re making incorrect, bad faith arguments about Atheism. If you don’t want me to argue with you, then don’t go on here acting like Tucker Carlson.

                You’re the one being a villain in this thread. The adult thing to do would be for you to recognize that and shut up. But you seem incapable of considering that you can be the villain and continue talking.

                Grow up.

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                  If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs,

                  When did I do that? All I did was call you out ob your dishonest arguements regarding Atheism

                  Also here’s a list of insults you’ve leveled at me so far in this thread, since you seem to need a reminder.

                  list

                  You’re the one being a villain in this thread. The adult thing to do would be for you to recognize that and shut up. But you seem incapable of considering that you can be the villain and continue talking.

                  Grow up.

                  In this thread you’ve done nothing but demonstrate that you’re intellectually and morally bankrupt while trying to pretend that everyone else is the problem.

                  Get over yourself.

                  Fuck off with that.

                  You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, *but*”

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                  Read my original comment again. I only highlighted things you guys do that are not nice to be around.

                  Many times you’ve accused me of writing things I never did. Again, I never said all, you’re not all evil, but you guys often have this persecution complex where you emotionally and violently react to all spirituality in your presence. Especially online, in forums like Lemmy and Reddit. It’s like you lose your ability to read accurately and just make up things I never wrote.

                  I don’t believe I deserve this kind of treatment for just pointing out what it’s like “on the other side of the fence”. You seem perfectly happy to say all religion is evil and brain washes children, then turn around and say I’m making bad faith arguments for only pointing out ugly behaviours like you’re showcasing right now.

                  I don’t even know what you’re expecting me to say. Do you want me to apologise and say I’m wrong for listing factual things that have actually happened to me? That are happening literally right now?

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      Atheism, like all belief systems

      You really should educate yourself a little bit more to get to the baseline level.

      Even if you bet on the right horse, it doesn’t mean everything you do is automatically justified; empathy is a higher order law.

      Oh, nevermind, you’re one of those feel-good nonsense wafflers.

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        Atheism is as much a belief as bald is a haircut. Technically slightly different, but makes sense to throw into the same box.

        Learning that being right doesn’t make you not an arsehole is a lesson too many of us had to learn the hard way.

        The satanic temple’s 7th tenet sums it up quite well.

        Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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          Atheism is as much a belief as bald is a haircut. Technically slightly different

          Only theists try to bring atheism down to a belief system.

          By that logic: absence of being on fire is kind of being on fire. Not drowning is a specific type of drowning. Vacuum is a particular form of atmosphere. Being an idiot is just a form of wisdom.

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            Atheism does require belief. Even if it’s only in the axioms of physics.

            As per my analogy, bald is not a haircut, but an absence of hair. You would be hard pressed to find a bald person who complained about it being lumped in with haircuts in a form.

            Recognising the limits to our own knowledge is an important part of finding the truth.

            Oh and the options “on fire” and “not on fire” obviously belong in the same grouping, even if they are different things.

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              Atheism does require belief. Even if it’s only in the axioms of physics.

              Interestingly, a diet poor in Omega-3 leads to inability to distinguish between belief and fact.

              Please go on such a diet.

              Now you’re confusing atheism - lack of belief in deities - with general knowledge of science, and then confusing general knowledge of science with belief. You are also confusing empirical evidence with faih.

              Go eat fish.

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                I’m scientifically trained (physics specifically), I’m also an atheist myself. I believe, based on a preponderance of evidence, that no creator being exists. The exception possibly being the simulation hypothesis. However, without specific evidence of that, the chances are extremely slim so I default to the null, aka atheism.

                Interestingly, science has very few “facts”. Facts are mostly a thing of mathematics , which can create rigorous proofs. There is a lot of evidence in science, along with predictions and theories, but few facts.

                E.g. I don’t know, for a fact, that the sun will rise in 1 year’s time. The evidence says it’s practically a certainty, but it is not a true “fact”. It’s a prediction based on an absurdly large evidence base.

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                  So technically, in math we refer to the core “ideas” from which all mathematics is derived as axioms, which we hold to be true until found to be false/self-contradictory/redundant. We arrive at these by describing the world, so it’s more like - “if you agree to the following statements, then you must also agree to the entirety of mathematics”.

                  Continuing with the occupational pedantry, I think there is some confusion lies in conflating “fact (repeatable observation)” with “fact (tested causal mechanism)”

                  So, kinda not really, but kinda? This is more philosophy but i think the idea is that as long as we can ensure that “there exists a statement for which there is a piece of evidence that can prove a statement false, but no evidence exists after significant testing and experiments” IRL we can use this interchangeably with “I have found a causal mechanism that causes this phenomena and can replicate the effect while controlling for confounding variables”. Statements under both are true and correct to the best of our understanding.

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        I used to be big on atheism but I do think it is also a belief system now. I realized that when a christian friend asked me “if we witnessed something that is indisputably an act of God, would you still believe he doesn’t exist ?”

        So, anyway, I say I’m agnostic and that I really dislike organized religion now.

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      Even if you bet on the right horse

      As if there were any other way to hold any kind of opinion about what could be beyond the bounds of reality as we know it, but to just bet on shit we don’t know the first thing about. It’s all just bets. Nobody knows and everyone is pretending that not only are they right but their rightness is of a superior quality than the claimed rightness of others. They’re still all just blind morons betting on horse races that are fixed by minds far closer to the truth and in control of it than they.

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        The people standing in the park trying to tease out which horse is fastest from previous observations have the advantage over anyone just going with their feelings.

        They especially have the advantage over the people standing outside who are pretending there are magical centaurs in the park that grant wishes if you’re not gay.

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          The people standing in the park trying to tease out which horse is fastest from previous observations have the advantage over anyone just going with their feelings.

          No, the metaphor breaks down at that point because there is no peeking over the wall, there is no listening to talk from inside the stables. We’re not even at the track. It’s all shit that is beyond observation, beyond calculation, beyond any kind of verification or validation. It is a thing nobody has any good reason to act like they know anything about in a scientific capacity.

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      Everyone knows chocolate is produced in a lab as a result of a complicated chemical process and is definitely not a real occurring natural organic product that grows from a plant.

      I mean yeah it’s not a tree, but still.

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    Yeah that period of time, where you believe nothing matters, so consequences don’t matter, until you realize that just because it doesn’t matter in the long run, it still sucks and you still have to deal with it, is one of the more challenging aspects of childhood atheism.

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      That’s not atheism, that’s nihilism which is different.

      Atheists don’t believe in God, largely because religion doesn’t really answer any of the big questions. No particular mode of behaviour is required of an atheist. You certainly don’t need to go around being destructive of quasi religious icons (Christmas trees aren’t even related to Christianity it’s a corporate thing).

      Nihilism is just the people who are having a midlife crisis, or are just play acting at depression in order to get attention. It’s not a philosophical position. It’s just been whiny.

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        Atheists are just the other side of the coin from religion, they KNOW there is no god and nothing you say matters. They can’t prove it, but they have absolute faith and will fight you every step of the way because their dogma demands it.

        Agnostics are more the chill ones. They know they can’t prove if there is or isn’t, they just know religion isn’t for them.

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          That’s a mental hang up on your part. How do you prove the lack of something?

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        It’s more like an offshoot of being raised religious and realizing none of it adds up but it still is a part of your worldview so it’s easy to swing from one extreme to the other.

        If god isn’t real nothing matters so you can do what you want. Then the consequences of reality hit and you realize that just because god isn’t real doesn’t mean the consequences aren’t.

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    What’s annoying about religious people discussing atheism(which happens every time it’s brought up) is that they invariably assume atheists also have religious thinking. Like I must go to atheist church every Sunday to convince myself there’s no god. It betrays either a lack of empathy or a lack of honesty.

    Nah, I tended my garden, had some coffee, and going to have some tacos later. I only think about religion when it’s brought up, usually when I see a billboard telling me my life is worthless and magic daddy is gonna have me for barbeque after I die.

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      It betrays a lack of theory of mind, likely indicating they’re below a fuzzy sort of threshold below which you don’t have the cognitive bandwidth to imagine a perspective beyond your own.

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        Of course there’s also the group that are probably intelligent enough to understand that other people think differently to them, but don’t care because they are narcissists.

        Which is how you get conservatives.

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    Great thing about atheism Anon, no one made ha do that shit but you, and you get to take full responsibility for your actions without the cop-out of “demonic possession”. Take that beating with pride knowing that you posses radical freedom.

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    “You know what I hate the most about religion? Its the way they try to shove their beliefs down your throat!”

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    he must be frightened to think about cocoa trees!

    or genetically modifying trees to grow whatever you want!!! 😱😱😱😱

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    “I have removed the chocolate from the tree. Science doesn’t allow chocolate to grow on trees”

    Anon science’d so hard he because a superstitious nutcase (many such cases). This is completely zealot brained.

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      Oh there’s a LOT people (usually from the US) who just replace whater evangelical bs they were socialised on with a New Thing that they run on the same evangelical lines. It’s why we have purity politicking everywhere