This will overload doctors offices even more than they already are. This will lead to rubberstamping sick leave at reception.
It is almost like Merz is an idiot but Germans are too enamored by the smell of their own xenophobic, “superior” diarrhea from shitting their pants to see the obvious reality.
Merz has historically low approval.
Good! Will that be enough to keep Germany from fascism spiralling? I remain very skeptical it will.
Germany is less far down that road than other European countries. Being overly worried is fear mongering taking root.
The worrisome thing is necessary reforms not being done. And there being little chance of that changing. But same is true for e.g. France if we are being honest. And Belgium got a nationalist government. Austria had Kurz who did just what you are fearing in allying with the far right.
The difference between Germany and those other countries of course is Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and other “unwanted” in gas chambers while fighting a world war and German society largely sat and took it like cowards.
You have to understand how that changes how the rest of the world contextualizes Germany’s current “flirtation” with fascism… but hey I am from the US so I don’t claim to be on any high horse here.
German society largely sat and took it like cowards.
But boy does THAT sound familiar
Current politics is very far removed from that historical context and forgets how popular those policies used to be all over the world. And using language like exterminate is dehumanizing.
Expecting Germans to be a fundamentally genocidal people is racist. And you, likely, aren’t even aware of the genocides that happen and are happening in the past 10 years. There are plenty.
Expecting Germans to be a fundamentally genocidal people is racist.
“German” is not a race, dimwit.
I hear all these words and none of them change the fact that less than a hundred years ago Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and a multitude of other human beings too.
How dare you accuse me of dehumanization for calling it what Germans saw it as. I clearly did it to emphasize the brutality not dehumanize the victims, fool.
Get the hell out of here with your lazy whataboutism about Genocide, of all things you could have picked.
Trust me most people hate Merz as much as your people hate Trump. He is more of an establishment pet than a pedophile obviously, but both are the personification of fear that people live in and are too dumb to control themselves.
fuck me, Vote Green
I did. I will.
Maybe, but doesn’t this seem super high to you?
Germany ranks seventh for the most sick leave taken by employees, with an average of 3.6 weeks per year.
3.6 weeks?
We have 5 paid sick days here and 3 unpaid. I think I used 1 or 2 last year.
The average is always high, because long time sickness drags the statistics up.
It’s not 10 people having the flu for 3.6 weeks every year. It’s one person going down with stress or cancer for half a year without losing their employment.
Yeah just seems high with Italy being at .9. Germany has 4x higher sickness? Or just Italians lose their jobs? And Romania with .1 week.
https://www.datapulse.de/en/sick-leave-europe-comparison/
This goes into everything about it. In short, the sick statistics actually only shows which countries are good at reporting it. The countries with the best coverage of pay obviously also report it better.
Germany is straight in the middle of everything.
The most interesting thing to notice is Norway. They have the highest average of sick days. They’re probably not more sick than others, but because their sick days are covered 100% by the state, it’s in everyone’s interest to report it. And yet… despite of 19% of the workforce being sick on any given day… they’re also the most productive GDP/hour.
Hmm good point
Yeah Germany is in a good place and Germans are willingly sabotaging themselves because Germany is easy to manipulate when you tell Germans they are superior. That is my point.
Have you looked at any populist movement in the world? Anyone likes easy solutions and being told their often multiple fears/worries/problems have one definite source. That is the populist playbook and has happened again and again over hundreds of years, irrespective of actual systems of Government. I think that is something very human that can only be beaten with education, imo.
The question is education of what kind? Education only about machines and their practical applications of their force? Or education about the humanities and art and why they are more important than the machines?
Something The Magic Mountain captures in perfect tension.
Seems a bit high but on par with rest of Europe
Italy .9 week. Germany is 4x higher
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This was the one of the many bad aspects about my employers response to COVID. They required a professionally administered test to approve your time off.
“Hey! I feel shitty and tested positive for COVID. I should rest and isolate at home, right?”
“No, you need to go out and feel shitty in the public, so someone else can give you the same exact test.”
I agree mostly. The test is the same but its a somewhat more trusted third party. And my brother regularly stayed home for 14 days to play video games before they introduced the tests laughing his ass off that he got full pay. And especially on Lemmy you see a lot of anti employer sentiment. I’m not saying it’s not earned, but I’m also a small business owner and am very lucky that my employees feel valued and are honest with me, because somebody missing too much work would probably bankrupt me sooner or later. Yes they feel treated well and are payed very well, but thats not a guarantee they won’t exploit my good will, had some of those as well and they usually don’t stay for long luckily.
Yes, that will be the effect, and they won’t be told to come back in two days, they will be told to come back in a week for a control visit, just to make sure they don’t get overrun by people with migraine and gastrointestinal distress. This change will make the situation worse for everyone - Patients, Doctors, Businesses, Insurance - not better.
What? So you feel sick, like a migraine or so, and have to go to a doctor just to confirm it?? The whole world has gone to shit.
Nah, just some more of that superior German intellect and work ethic!
This is how it was in Finland for ever.
Then around 10 years ago or so employers began giving 3 days off (paid) with just a call, some even do 5 days.
During covid some did even longer period.I’m talking about this: you wake up and feel like someone dumped pile of shit on you. You call on sick and hope that it gets better. Here in Sweden we have first I think 3 days unpaid this way, after that it is paid for up to 6 days and for longer time you need to go to the doctor. This way you avoid spreading flu for example and overloading the health system.
In my country it worked like that since forever… It sucks, since it comes down to you basically having to go to a doctor’s office with a fucking fever. And ofc doctors office is overcrowded as-is so that takes better part of the day.
Same here but doctor is so overcrowded I won’t get an appointment before the next week and have to go to er…
German workers already have generous holidays, plus a plethora of EU and German holidays, and is anyone seriously sick 3.6 weeks a year? almost a month?? That sounds like a national health crisis.
What do vacations have to do with sick days?
In US , workers use mandated sick days in place of pathetic vacation days and holidays.
When the average worker is taking a month of sick days a year, they are just taking more vacation days, when they already have the longest vacation schedules in the world.
That sounds an American problem. In any civilized country vacation days are vacation days. Sick days are sick days. Despite conservatives thin foil hat BS people are not taking sick days to go to Maiorca.
Feel sick.
Call in sick.
Get told to get letter.
Don’t get letter.
Go back to work when well
Get asked for letter.
Go fuck yourself and fire me if you’re going to.
Any job willing to enforce that isnt worth working at.
Except when you go back to work you look over and see a coworker working who has three kids and you know is financially struggling and can’t afford to get fired but they are clearly sick as hell and the whole office is uncomfortable…
…and then you realize… hopefully that simply personally rejecting this work environment isn’t enough, you need to unionize effectively so that this doesn’t happen.
They need to fire the dumb fuck who made the rule, but I’m not sure what system they use there and how long they’re stuck with him.
They need to fire the dumb fuck who made the rule, but I’m not sure what system they use there and how long they’re stuck with him.
‘They’ use a democratic system which means that usually they are stuck with the “dumbfuck” until the next election. Very much unlike in dictatorships where they are stuck with the “dumbfuck” for much longer while any critique similar to what we read here would be harshly punished as ‘they’ have no say.
I mean I’m not an idiot, i know they use a democratic system, but there are more than one way of doing it, and they have differing lengths of service. If it was like Canada and they happened to have a minority/coalition government, you could potentially even trigger an early election if there was enough discontent among the people and other parties.
Our last PM in a minority government had to step down after the party started to abandon him and that involved discontent from the populace (edit and then his successor) called an early election.
Edit: That wouldn’t happen in a system like the USA.
I didn’t mean to call you out. What I wanted to say is that although the system may be imperfect, it is better than in dictatorial regimes celebrated by Novara Media.
This is a textbook example of selection bias by a propaganda medium. They single out 1 measure out of 34, publish “the West bad” tonality, and then hail autocratic systems like the one in China as the solution, although the welfare system and labour rights there are catastrophically worse. This is an essential part of disinformation warfare.
This system is in place in France and is extremely stupid and wasteful.
This is going to kill people since waiting times increasing for doctors aren’t just some benign inconvenience. And contagious people will have an incentive to go to work as well, which is what happens in France and worsens epidemics, which actually costs way more than the mythical lazy person who calls in sick to play video games all day.
Are Germans going to fight back?
I kinda deludedly maybe remember a time that we were at least told the world is heading in a direction based on science, learning and knowledge.
is this slavery? Forced work?
Bruh, who voted for this guy. Everything this party does makes our lives directly worse. Is there anyway this gets blocked? I cannot believe everyone gets a worse life experience AND there’s a tax break for the rich included in this and we’re not fucking protesting in the streets.
My first couple years in Germany were under the street light coalition, which had the traitorous FDP in it, but it was the first time in my life that political news from the government was always good. It was such an amazing feeling that heavily reinforced my choice to move to Germany for forever.
Every month under the CDU has felt like the exact opposite. That freedom of worry, that feeling of constant improvement, gone. It’s living in the US all over again. And with the radical policies being pushed by the AfD and the CDU courting them while also worsening the state of things to the point that the AfD have a chance of winning… Ugh. I just feel like there’s a world where Germans keep voting to shoot themselves in the foot and instead of staying and becoming a German and fully integrating - and really changing my family’s future from Ukrainian two generations ago to American with my parents now to German with me - I’m gonna have to move again to a different EU country that doesn’t want to ruin their own future.
God the Wealth tax can’t come soon enough in the UK and France and hopefully everywhere else.
I’m sick of mr merz, does that count?
This is bad, but Novara Media is using such news while at the same time hailing China for its policies, although Chinese social welfare and labour conditions are far behind Germany’s or anywhere else in Western democracies. This is a highly biased anti-democratic medium in my opinion.
Textbook case of Whataboutism.
There is a community here on Lemmy that tries to normalize biased media that favour China and other autocratic systems.
I don’t support this German move, but in addition to the end to phone-based sick notes, the German government introduced another 33 measures, including a €10 billion in income tax relief targeted at lower and middle-income earners. But Novara Media takes a single measure out of 34. This is a textbook case of selection bias.
There is nothing wrong with critique, but there are good sources that explain the entire German package in more depth, and many of them are easier accessible as they aren’t hiding behind Cloudflare as Novara Media does if I may say so.
Hey sinophibic idiot: Germany is irrelevant and China dominates it in every metric relevant to workers quality of life. Germany is a Zionist shithole. Take your China Bad shit and go home.
