• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
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    9 days ago

    I hear all these words and none of them change the fact that less than a hundred years ago Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and a multitude of other human beings too.

    How dare you accuse me of dehumanization for calling it what Germans saw it as. I clearly did it to emphasize the brutality not dehumanize the victims, fool.

    Get the hell out of here with your lazy whataboutism about Genocide, of all things you could have picked.

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      9 days ago

      I consider your language insensitive as you should provide more context and condemnation when using such dehumanizing terms. I didn’t think you were intending to do so.

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        9 days ago

        Ok sure, beating around the bush with Genocide is a bit of a touchy subject with the Genocide of Palestinians raging on with state support of both the US and Germany, supposedly for the better of jews… so ok but know that I do not use such serious words lightly or carelessly.

        Human rights apply to all humans.

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          I didn’t defend the genocide on the Palestinians. To be fair, I do believe it gets disproportionate media attention compared to other, ongoing genocides with much higher death tolls and suffering. In particular on the left. But this does not mean you should attack me out of the blue.

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            Nobody cares if you think the Palestinian Genocide gets just a bit too much media attention in the cultures of the main systematic enablers of the Genocide.

            Yes, other Genocides exist and we should also talk about them, of course, stop trying to use that strawman argument like most people upset about the Palestinian Genocide are only interested for specific reasons and not because it is a horrific crime against humanity… as a whole… it should weigh all of our hearts down shame on those who can forget it.

            I don’t know if i have ever met a Palestinian, I probably have but I can’t think of any specific interaction or person I know and say “ah yes they are Palestinian”, but it doesn’t matter, I know there is an entire history that I do not know, but also I know that Palestinians are human beings and that is enough.

            So let us stand together against genocide ok?

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              9 days ago

              I didn’t say that. I said the others don’t get enough by a mile.

              There is ample reason for the Palestine genocide to be overrepresented, some good too, some bad, too. Please read this as perceived and not actual reasons, some are much less sane and valid than others, the order is somewhat random:

              • compliance of Western nations,
              • Anti Western mindset and propaganda.
              • Anti oil/fossil fuel impacts.
              • increased energy bills to all (i.e. you are directly harmed by it)
              • Predictability of the terror attack
              • ramping up of condemned settlers policy, decentralized violence
              • failed Palestine/Israel policy for 80 years
              • Israeli wealth
              • few, but public Israelis arguing in favor of this, publically and righteously
              • very public arms shipments to Israel, Israel being a global player in arms manufacturing and engineering
              • overwhelming military supremacy of Israel
              • freedom of press in Israel
              • committed by a organized, large, stable nation
              • Intel sharing
              • water shortages, incapability of reaching a remotely equitable arrangement
              • lack of natural resources of Palestine
              • glacial pace of the conflict with very low rates of death
              • haredi Jews role in politics and privileges paired with their policy demands
              • a jewish nation committing genocide seeming particularly hainous when they should be particularly conscious due to their own, historical suffering (sins/suffering of the father does not translate like that, you shouldn’t hold anyone to that standard, in particular in lesser things)

              Many particularly hainous parts of genocide did not happen in Palestine and likely never will, such as seen in al fasher. Also I feel like the points somewhat repeat each other.

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                9 days ago

                Freedom of the press in Israel?

                Glacial state of the conflict?

                Few Israelis arguing in favor of this?

                !!!

                wow

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                  There are journalists on the ground. Many of them. There are large, international newspapers. There are far fewer than 1000 people dying most days. It has went on for years. That’s a slow pace.

                  There are some notable Israeli figures who argue in favor of this. I didn’t intend to write the are only a few of them, but that there are at least some.