• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
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    8 days ago

    Good! Will that be enough to keep Germany from fascism spiralling? I remain very skeptical it will.

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      8 days ago

      Germany is less far down that road than other European countries. Being overly worried is fear mongering taking root.

      The worrisome thing is necessary reforms not being done. And there being little chance of that changing. But same is true for e.g. France if we are being honest. And Belgium got a nationalist government. Austria had Kurz who did just what you are fearing in allying with the far right.

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        8 days ago

        The difference between Germany and those other countries of course is Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and other “unwanted” in gas chambers while fighting a world war and German society largely sat and took it like cowards.

        You have to understand how that changes how the rest of the world contextualizes Germany’s current “flirtation” with fascism… but hey I am from the US so I don’t claim to be on any high horse here.

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          8 days ago

          Current politics is very far removed from that historical context and forgets how popular those policies used to be all over the world. And using language like exterminate is dehumanizing.

          Expecting Germans to be a fundamentally genocidal people is racist. And you, likely, aren’t even aware of the genocides that happen and are happening in the past 10 years. There are plenty.

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            8 days ago

            I hear all these words and none of them change the fact that less than a hundred years ago Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and a multitude of other human beings too.

            How dare you accuse me of dehumanization for calling it what Germans saw it as. I clearly did it to emphasize the brutality not dehumanize the victims, fool.

            Get the hell out of here with your lazy whataboutism about Genocide, of all things you could have picked.

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              8 days ago

              I consider your language insensitive as you should provide more context and condemnation when using such dehumanizing terms. I didn’t think you were intending to do so.

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                8 days ago

                Ok sure, beating around the bush with Genocide is a bit of a touchy subject with the Genocide of Palestinians raging on with state support of both the US and Germany, supposedly for the better of jews… so ok but know that I do not use such serious words lightly or carelessly.

                Human rights apply to all humans.

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                  8 days ago

                  I didn’t defend the genocide on the Palestinians. To be fair, I do believe it gets disproportionate media attention compared to other, ongoing genocides with much higher death tolls and suffering. In particular on the left. But this does not mean you should attack me out of the blue.

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                    8 days ago

                    Nobody cares if you think the Palestinian Genocide gets just a bit too much media attention in the cultures of the main systematic enablers of the Genocide.

                    Yes, other Genocides exist and we should also talk about them, of course, stop trying to use that strawman argument like most people upset about the Palestinian Genocide are only interested for specific reasons and not because it is a horrific crime against humanity… as a whole… it should weigh all of our hearts down shame on those who can forget it.

                    I don’t know if i have ever met a Palestinian, I probably have but I can’t think of any specific interaction or person I know and say “ah yes they are Palestinian”, but it doesn’t matter, I know there is an entire history that I do not know, but also I know that Palestinians are human beings and that is enough.

                    So let us stand together against genocide ok?