Hello world,
as many of you may already be aware, there is an ongoing spam attack by a person claiming to be Nicole.
It is very likely that these images are part of a larger scale harassment campaign against the person depicted in the images shared as part of this spam.
Although the spammer claims to be the person in the picture, we strongly believe that this is not the case and that they’re only trying to frame them.
Starting immediately, we will remove any images depicting “Nicole” and information that may lead to identifying the real person depicted in those images to prevent any possible harassment.
This includes older posts and comments once identified.
We also expect moderators to take action if such content is reported.
While we do not intend to punish people posting this once, not being aware of the context, we may take additional actions if they continue to post this content, as we consider this to be supporting the harassment campaign.
Discussion that does not include the images themselves or references that may lead to identifying the real person behind the image will continue to be allowed.
If you receive spam PMs please continue reporting them and we’ll continue working on our spam detections to attempt to identify them early before they reach many users.
Streisand effect dude. 🤦♂️
This is some small internet bullshit i’m here for
Oh, I think I got one of those. It’s that girl with the bong, right?
Yes, but there are a few pictures around from all of it
I’ve heard that if you actually add her on friendica, the mayor of Toronto shows up at your house and gives you an old fashioned.
I’ll give it a go
This annoys the fuck out of me and I hope whoever is behind it doesn’t realize their goals, because I don’t want lemmy to degrade into a bunch of spam PMs.
TBF, it’s bound to happen.
Guaranteed almost.
Lemmy has minimal controls for protecting against spam and bot spam. It’s built to handle the internet 5 to 10 years ago, not the internet today.
I can only hope that this changes because as soon as the platform becomes popular enough (which it is slowly). Then the rate of bot spam and other sorts of spam will just go through the roof, and there’s very little that admins can do to combat it without it becoming a full-time job.
We can have an opt in spam filter that makes it harder, the instances can defederate spamming instances (user) unless they do something which yes there is a lot admins can do at signup. Or have I misunderstood something?
I don’t either want to see story on TV about Internet hacker group “Lenny” destroying womans life by a persistent harassment campaign.
I finally got one a week ago. Have many of you gotten them?
There’s an entire community of people who get them. I think it’s called “Nicoled” but likely shitting down now. Some people were getting up to tens per day.
Jfc I got my first today and was like “oh wow it’s real.” Can’t believe some people are getting multiple a day. That would be annoying as hell
At least 4 or 5.
I got my first one last night. Yay! I’m part of the thing now!
I gotta give it to you guys. The foresight to prevent a disaster is 10/10. Top tier. Well done.
to be honest, this should have been done way earlier.
Still glad you’re doing it now!
I saw a theory a while back that the IPs which receive the various images get logged allowing the recipients accounts to be tied to an IP and possibly even a physical address based on the timeframe it was sent. Is that a real concern or just conspiracy, do you think?
That appears to be a baseless conspiracy theory.
Except for the gore pms, I believe all the images have been uploaded to Lemmy instances or Imgur, which means that the uploader has no way to track IPs accessing those images. The gore images were uploaded to another service that at least on the surface appears to be another regular image hoster that wouldn’t expose IP access logs to uploaders.
I don’t think its baseless given that anyone can set up their own Lemmy instance to host the PM’d images.
The instance domains I’ve seen involved so far at least weren’t set up specifically for this purpose at least. Most of the URLs were pointing to established services and not different per recipient.
While I can’t rule out that individual users may have received a different URL in an attempt to extract their IP and information about their browser, this at least does not appear to have been done in a larger scale.
Gore wait wtf where does gore come in, is that if you play along with the ctfish?
A day or two ago, someone spammed out a picture of a murdered body with the standard Fediverse Chick copypasta. That seemed to freak people out; the nicoled community locked down, this thread happened, etc.
The gore photo seems to be a second actor/copycat. The Nicole spammer either came from their own instances or opened accounts very shortly before spamming, the gore photo, and a following anime style picture done in red-on-white saying “Do you like insanity?” seem to come from accounts that were made 2 years ago.
Oh damn. Don’t know how I missed that bit of drama. Thanks
I find it difficult to believe there are enough fediverse users not using a VPN at all times to make that effort worthwhile.
most people don’t. the only device I have that runs a VPN 24/7 is a laptop that seeds
I use a VPN on everything else if I’m doing something sketchy thougheveryone should be more like me :3
yeah that’s fair, I probably should use it more but it’s just kinda annoying
You know it had not even crossed my mind until this post but on hindsight it makes perfect sense.
It’s pretty obvious …
What’s scary is how many people just accepted that some woman wanted to randomly spam thousands of pictures with her smoking weed.
Maybe they’re used to onlyfans bots.
That would make since if any of the pictures were selfies and not random screen grabs off a webcam
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Foresight? This has been going on for several months.
I took the comment as sarcasm. lol
You forgot this
/s
Yeah it seemed funny at first but the longer this went on the creepier it got as we all realized this isn’t just a catfish.
Whoever is doing this to the actual person in the photos is a terrible human being and should go climb under a rock for the rest of their lives.
Agreed. When the images started to change it got really creepy.
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It got super creepy when more shots of this women were released of her doing activities that no one would ever take a photo of themselves doing. Then the last photo was released separately of a NSFW don’t read if you are not in a place to read gore/graphic/assault
Tap for spoiler
Real photo of a dead woman who looks like Nicole in a morgue body bag with her flesh peeled off and her face beaten. It’s unlikely that this disturbing turn is real but it was horrific for people who received this last spam. That is what triggered the ultimate ban on all images (since this is most likely a psychopathic copycat). :(
I’ve seen several different images and there was a video on peertube. All of them look like content from a hacked webcam.
Yeah, that’s what I thought from the very first DM I received. It looks like Shea totally unaware a picture was taken of her. Surely, if this were real, “Nicole” would use a more flattering picture to potential friends.
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It’s just creepy because in every other obvious scam like this for the last 10 years they use the same single picture of the same person on everyone. Now suddenly there are dozens of different pictures, all clearly of the same woman, going to different people.
I have no context for this and thought it was an April fools joke left up but no, this is a real problem here?
I think I’ve gotten about 5 messages in total. Multiply that across the fediverse, and that’s potentially a lot of irritation.
Understandable.
I can’t wait for the future 4 hour video deep dive into Nicole history and lore.
Question is, is it going to be made by Whang or Nexpo?
Count Dankula’s madlasses
Neither. Hopefully someone like wendigoon or oki’s weird stories. Someone a bit more investigative and less semsationalistic than nexpo.
I’m hoping it’s not made by Caitlin Doughty.
Is this Nicole thing really still a thing? That’s so like back when I still had a 401k.
So was it last week or the day before yesterday? It all happens so fast, I can’t - and frankly - refuse to catch up.
It’s been ongoing for a few weeks at least. Maybe months.
It’s been at least half a year
My government salutes you!
Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.
i received another message yesterday, after my instance’s admin claimed they fixed the issue (i assume my blocking the spammer’s ip address from making new accounts)
the problem with this spam and generally federated platforms is that you can only really try detecting it based on the content. the accounts tend to get created on another instance and then the messages federate over to you, which means you won’t see a lot of the identifying information you’d see for a local user, such as their IP address.
IP bans aren’t great either. A decent spammer will just use a vpn. Then you’re just banning IPs from a service that other users might also use. An even more sophisticated bad actor would just use a bot net.
I just chalked it up to “a necessary evil” in order to take advantage of federated platforms. I found it funny at first, and then just ignored it. I never thought that it could’ve been some smear campaign, but rather scammers looking for easy targets.
I’m glad mods are doing something about it, even if it’s not a perfect fix.
Ouch
About damn time. The joke has run it’s course a long time a ago and if these posts are victimizing an individual they most definitely need to be stopped.
I broke up with her for this reason.
She ghosted me. Never replied to any attempts at communication. I’m done.
Wait, there are people who genuinely believe she’s the one behind it?
I thought it was pretty obvious that she’s the target of harassment. Some people must be new to the Internet
Yeah, I’ve been targeted by enough romance spam that I just assume any photo of a woman I don’t know was probably stolen from some random Tumblr or Instagram.
Everyone is 1 of the 10000. Even the people who have to look up what being 1 of the 10000 means
I had to look it up, and after reading a lengthily Wikipedia page on Greek mercenaries, I tried the second result: an XKCD comic I’ve seen before but had forgotten. So today, I’m one of the lucky 10,000 again.
I’ve seen internet harassment campaigns, none have looked like this. She doesn’t feel like the target here. If you wanted to use the internet to harass a girl, is this how you would implement it?
Yeah. This is older than the internet. It’s like writing “For a good time call Nicole” and writing someone you don’t like’s number in a truck stop bathroom.
…actually…
Speaking of new to the internet, it’s clearly not a harassment campaign against her. This is waaaay too much effort. There’s only 3 things that would engender this level of effort. Money, government spying, or mental illness.
This is waaaay too much effort.
If you are willing and able to do a bit of scripting, it’s not that hard to generate and send a bunch of messages on the Threadiverse.
And there are people who will go to pretty extreme lengths to harass people who they are really upset with. An ugly breakup or something and…
mentally ill people can have plenty of time on their hands to invest this much effort in harassing others. people claiming that this can’t be harassment are effectively supporting the harassment, as that tries to further blame the likely victim of this. obviously this is just speculation, as we don’t know the full truth.
people claiming that this can’t be harassment are effectively supporting the harassment, as that tries to further blame the likely victim of this
I don’t think anyone seriously thinks the woman in the pictures is behind this.
I’m sorry, sometimes it’s hard to tell whether people actually mean it. I can totally see people commenting that and being serious.
things can be multiple things and once
True.
It’s a crypto scam. That’s all it ever was
This is a copy+paste of a comment I left on the !Nicole@feddit.org mod post after the recent incident with the gruesome picture(s?):
“I think if Lemmy doesn’t have the infrastructure to defend against attacks like these which are presumptively conducted by one bad actor, then it doesn’t have the infrastructure to defend against wealthy organizations when our communities do get big enough to be noticed by them.
[!Nicole@feddit.org]’s history underscores how the messaging system in particular needs a massive overhaul; using image recognition as a filter for messages like Lemmy.World does for image posts (with options for NSFW that isn’t NSFL?), preventing images (and URLs? or only allowing white-listed sites?) from being sent within the first message sent between users (unless a box is ticked?),
not showing message recipients images until they are directly opened, and preventing the de-anonymizing of message recipients should be made first priority for the next patch.”Edit: not sure if my comment is inciting other trolls/spammers to target me but I just got this DM several hours after commenting
Dont render images in private message (#3043)
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2025-04-08_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.11
Ah very cool. A recent update too. Thanks.
Yes. As you can see, a few large instances like lemm.ee, lemmy.ca and others have already updated: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy?version=0.19.11
Hopefully others will follow soon
Reddthat.com updated as well… dunno how big our instance is, in comparison, but I didn’t know the update dealt with embedded images in PM’s. I appreciate the info!
What does the “MAU” stat mean? “‘Something’ Active Users”?
Monthly active users
unfortunately we can’t just apply the update quickly, as this introduces sending emails on rejected applications. we already send rejection emails separately and with custom text, while the text implemented in the update is currently not configurable.
i’ll see if we can deploy updated lemmy-ui without updating lemmy already this weekend, but i need to check if there were any api changes first, as we’d then have to backport them to lemmy first.
we’ve already applied the security patch about 2 weeks ago.
Thank you!
Honestly I think the easiest thing would be to not allow images or embedding at all in PMs and perhaps display a warning message when clicking links “you are leaving [instance name]…”
Analyzing potentially lots of text and images in an effort to “guarantee” safety of users is likely a sisyphusian endeavour that is bound to fail - and furthermore also has privacy issues (namely that “private” messages aren’t private at all)
not allow images or embedding at all in PMs
I’d add — as someone who was concerned about and posted on the possibility that the aim of the spammer was exposing the IP address associated with the receivers’s username — that even if this wasn’t the aim from this event, it could be in some future event.
I don’t think that disallowing inline images in direct messages will eliminate spam problems, even efforts of this sort, as it’d still be possible for a spammer to spam messages with indirect links to images hosted elsewhere. But it would help avoid leaking IP addresses of the receiving user.
Or at least disallowing inline images in direct messages by default. I can imagine maybe someone enabling them on some kind of a private, decoupled-from-the-wider-Fediverse instance on an intranet or whatnot, but I really don’t think that this is something that nearly any instance should actually permit.
For anti-spam efforts, I think that there are a variety of potential partial solutions. No complete fixes, but some:
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Rate-limiting the comment frequency on new accounts. IIRC, Reddit used this tactic. It does create some issues for (legitimate) use of throwaway accounts in anonymous posts, but there’s no legitimate reason for a new account to blast hundreds of messages an hour, I think. This might already be present, but if not, it’d be a good start. This can be defeated by generating new accounts for each new message or batch of.
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Rate-limiting new account creation from a given IP address, if not already present. An attacker could defeat this via use of a commercial VPN, and if too low, it could create issues for some commercial VPNs.
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Hashing of messages to red-flag identical messages being posted en masse. As best I could tell, the spammer here was posting many identical messages. This can be defeated by a spammer having software slightly modify each message.
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Fuzzy-hashing of messages to red-flag almost identical messages being posted en masse. This can be defeated via text generation methods that are carefully tailored to the fuzzy hashing mechanism to modify messages such that each fuzzy-hashes to a different value.
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A mechanism to permit an account to share blacklists of IP or message hashes and trigger removal of messages on other instances, preferably associated with a specific identifier or account. This permits any other instances to leverage antispam work by one instance; if I want to trust a given antispam admin or bot on lemmy.world, I can. Let an instance admin review and override such removals, maybe. It creates abuse potential for malicious use or inadvertent false positives spanning instances, but I think that it’s necessary to avoid having each instance fight its own lonely antispam battles. Otherwise, new and personal instances risk being buried by a deluge of direct message spam. The same mechanism, if exposed to users and not just instance admins, would also permit for subscribable content filters for people who don’t want to see content of a given sort (e.g. profanity or pornographic content of a particular sort or whatever, not just spam), which is another issue.
Fortunately, as far as I see as a user, we’re not yet at the point that there is much spam on here yet, so this isn’t yet a serious problem. Maybe it’ll never happen, if the userbase never grows much. But if the userbase gets considerably bigger, increasingly-problematic spam will inevitably follow.
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For anyone not clicking the link, but wondering what this reply means… it’s a link to the user’s comment (right below, within this comment chain) about a lemmy update
I was confused for a sec and probably would’ve skipped over all of the context because I didn’t continue reading first (and I hesitate to click links randomly), so maybe someone else with no attention span will benefit as well
"Lemmy update v0.19.11 provides ‘Dont render images in private message’
Not every instance is updated to this version, but it should stop the current method of spam (if updated). I’m wordy, I know; but maybe it’ll help someone
They are absolutely right. The quiet part of this is almost certainly that these DMs were being used to collect IPs from users using tracking links, and this is generally a big vulnerability in the fediverse many people seem unwilling to meaningfully confront.
Well, I for example develop an automod (which is available to everyone) which includes advanced stuff like scanning images in the content, scanning the text itself, detecting similarity between two images etc. This all in an efficient reactive manner using database level webhooks.
There is the infrastructure for that, it’s being developed and refined with every new kind of attack that’s happening. As every other platform does, whether they’re commercial or open.
I got that DM as well. And then it disappeared. I think my instance’s admins saw it spammed and mass deleted it.
Considering the spammer has used so many different photos, and they all seem to be “in the moment” webcam photos, I suspect they may have webcam spyware on the victim’s computer
She looks to me like a college student attending an online class. Looks like it’s shot on a laptop’s built-in camera, lighting is whatever, she’s dressed casually and comfortably, facial expression is neutral or even bored…
If you’re taking a college class via Zoom, can you see your classmates’ webcams?
Ripping a bong on zoom in class?
It’s not the 90s anymore Becky. Live a little!
You don’t frame yourself perfectly in your webcam’s view before you take bong rips?
I feel like we can rule out spyware and online class. More likely a group call with friends or something like that
Yeah, why not?
Yes, almost always, if the professor requires you to have webcam on. AFAIK the whole meeting sees everyone who has webcam on.
Yes. Sometimes it is required to have your camera on. Even when it isn’t required, there are always some people who prefer to have theirs on for whatever reason.
with the content i’ve seen it gave me more of an impression of being captures of a live stream, but that’s just guessing
True, that’s probably more likely
Didn’t somebody locate livestreams by the person in the pictures? I want to say I read that in one of the research threads.
Could be completely AI generated with variations of the same person. But that doesn’t really matter, the spam needs to go.
Considering it says she’s in school, it seems more likely that it might be an online class where the students are sharing their webcam