I too watched a documentary on the US civil war. I learned it was about power, greed and fear. The southerners had complete control over their slaves and losing them meant becoming completely dependant on northern machinery. They likened this to becoming slaves themselves, which was obviously horrifying considering their own behaviour in this regard. So war was their only option, not only to maintain and then grow their properties, but also to destroy or take over the northern industrial capabilities.

Sounds evil, which it was, but at the same time it was a matter of survival, as proven after the war when many plantations and businesses using the former slaves collapsed.

The war happened because the southerners had nothing to lose and everything to gain from it. Or at least, that’s how the documentary portrayed it.

I get it. Your perspective is completely normal. But you’re talking out of fear. While it’s fine to take note of it and make plans in case of worse outcomes, allowing fear to take charge of your decisions will only cause you to fall deeper into it.

Most people don’t know what you think they know. Take any family and you’ll almost always find gaps in their shared facts. Our presence here on Lemmy is deceiving us in what is supposed to be common sense that is often not. But at the same time, the fediverse is a good example of how many topics and interests we don’t share or know of at all.

And besides, if these gun wielding maniacs are so widespread, why would running away help? You’ll just meet them everywhere you go. Makes no sense to trade the danger you know with others you don’t. Call it survival, but it’s really waltzing away with limited resources and knowledge into the great unknown.

Less fear, more reason. Or you’ll just drive yourself crazy with worry.

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Your problem is that you believe their actions aren’t supposed to be justified. But that’s the wrong approach. “Every action has consequences” is just bullshit on its own. The web of reaction is as old as the universe and us picking which action deserve a certain reaction is nothing more than personal whim.

We’re flawed beings, all of us. I can’t be right for every situation, but neither can you. And the difference between us is that I want to try and treat each individual as an individual. You may see this as excusing an abuser, I see it as fighting against abuse.

I won’t protect everyone and i can’t protect everyone, but just like any other kind of death row decision, it has to be earned. Each degree of punishment has to be fair. The chance for redemption has to be given. Punishment should be for the purpose of rehabilitation. And if we can’t do it at an individual level, how can we expect it to be done for a better society.

Being just is hard work. And if you can’t do it, why expect it of others?

Hello there. If you’d like to go on a wild goose chase, I can tell you that some years back on the PPSSPP forum there was a thread asking about this sort of thing. If you can find it and if it received an answer, then you might be able to solve this conundrum.

Have fun!

You don’t have to be the one fucking around as long as there are others fucking around you.

It’s normal to attack and be attacked, it’s also normal to have a friendly exchange of ideas and it’s very normal to communicate through memes and soundbites.

What isn’t normal is to communicate through emojis. We need to shun those people! They must not be allowed to propagate a second hieroglyphics age! Archeologists will think it was aliens all over again!

Shun them!

Kid loves you because you’re still there for him, for better or worse. If he doesn’t feel abandoned or less important than material things, then he’ll keep on loving you just the same.

Still, long-term, you need to plan for building him an independent life while getting one for yourself. It’s a tough gig but you have experience. Your work ain’t done yet pops, so good luck!

The path of least resistance.

We often walk it without even realizing it.

The drunk uncle. Alcohol is called liquid courage for a reason. Has anyone tried since Reagan to teach him throughout the year he’s got nothing to fear or was he left to stew with only a propaganda channel as company and then only rebuked at Thanksgiving?

In-laws. Nosy relatives are a staple of large family gatherings. They usually don’t really care about your “gay lifestyle”, they just want to nag, nitpick and compare. “Look at me and my kids! We’re all proper and shit! Nyeh nyeh nyeh!” Even if you shut them down on one thing, they just move on to something else. The cunts. But that’s just how some social contracts work.

Parents. The biological urge to reproduce is often times a contest of wills that the urge tends to win. Parents want biological grandchildren. When the possibility of getting one drops to zero, it’s a shock to the system. Does not compute. “Feminine gay man” is a fucking win in the face of that.

You want people to make difficult decisions because they’re the right thing to do, but you don’t care to understand how or why these type of decisions are difficult to them. Because it harms you, it harms others. Well guess what, harm comes in different shapes and forms, often unnoticed and unchallenged.

If you’re unwilling to understand the difficulty in changing who you are, who you’ve been for a large part of your life without a constant impetus to push forward that change, then do you really deserve that type of understanding from others? To clarify further, you’re the impetus. Without you there to push them towards acceptance, who exactly are you expecting to do that for them? Fox news?

It’s hard, very hard, so hard that many just pack up and run. And that’s fine. It’s completely fine. But it ain’t the right thing to do, it’s the left one.

Dear solitary person, who is separate from the world, uninfluenced by anyone or anything, a true beacon of independent thought, you seriously believe your views are pure and untainted? That nothing and no one can change them at any point? Or were you so defeated by your past that you no longer believe a mind can be changed?

From you who is already beaten and wallows within the bitter taste of their tragedy, all i have gained is sadness. I am sorry you suffered and i am sorry you were unable to regain your loved ones, if they ever were such, but please, do not drag others into your suffering and instead allow them to drag you out of it.

Minds can be changed, views can be altered. Hope exists whether we can see it or not. And in this vein, I hope you will find your happiness once more and spread that joy instead of this current unpalatable sorrow.

Be well.

Let me ask you this, if your kid ends up in a way not acceptable to you, will you “socially ostracize” them? Simply say “there’s nothing i can do” and cut them out of your life?

If so, then I am sad for you. Not pity, just sadness.

If not, then why not feel the same for your parents? Because they’re old or something like that?

I don’t know. It’s just… eh, can’t even use ‘weird’ anymore… maybe ‘lame’ works. It’s lame to be so decisive in giving up, yet still flower it up as some sort of moral punishment.

Yeh, people are dumb. Yeh, people can be evil. And yeh, some people are irremediable with too much wrongdoing to be forgiven. But it’s important to know the difference between these aspects and treat them accordingly. Otherwise, it’s just being lazy about it.

People won’t magically disappear just because one no longer interacts with them. They’ll still exist, live their life and interact within the society we’re all a part of. One can set them aside for the majority of the time, but eventually those connections do come back to haunt and annoy.

You seem invested in an idea, but fail to present it. Please take a break and relax your mind. It seems too tense to properly convey your meanings.

You’re making no sense.

Not really. Lots of people here excommunicated toxic people out of their lives and yet those toxic people still voted for the wrong ideas. And according to the numbers thrown around, the ideology hasn’t died out by way of excommunication.

All excommunication managed to do is create a 2 party system based on hating the other side. And a complete excommunication would mean the end of the United States and the beginning of the Opposing States or something like that.

Time has a way of dealing with that

I’m referring to people with horrible views dying.

You’re right. I have no idea what you’re on about.

Agreed. But there’s a lot of blame going around that says otherwise.

And either you’re expecting the people you hate to die first or for yourself to die before them. Neither of those cases actually solves the problem, so your choice is quite pointless. All you’re doing is passing on the torch to the next generation and thus maintaining the cycle of ruination.

Apparently it is. Otherwise we wouldn’t have popular comments such as “if you didn’t vote, you’re complicit” or “silence is acquiescence of fascism”. So no communication = violence, because if you run away from them, then you’re giving them free reign to implement their views.

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Death doesn’t care about one’s political views.