I’m not super convinced by the water jet. It can make a mess, it requires a lot of paper to dry if you don’t want to wet your pants and if you don’t have soap, are you really cleaning?
Heating seat feels like overabundance (a common thing in Japan).
But the sink to clean your hands and reuse this gray water for the next flush is amazing. I think it should be made mandatory in every region with water resources issues. It’s still not clear to me, however, if using soap there will cause more maintenance issues or not.

  • @zigmus64@lemmy.world
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    In defense of the bidet, you might not be getting quite as clean as you would be with soap, but you’re definitely getting cleaner than with paper alone. I put it this way to folks who look at me weird when I mention that I use bidets… if you got a glob of shit on your hands, would simply wiping it off with a piece of paper be good enough? Water would be involved somehow…

    Also if you’re soaking yourself to the point where drying is an issue, you might want to try adjusting the water pressure or flow in some way…. I use a bidet daily and don’t need more than 4-6 squares of TP to get adequately dry.

    • oce 🐆OP
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      Fair enough, I may not have had the patience to find the right parameters yet.

      • @Woht24@lemmy.world
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        23 months ago

        Seconded, you can adjust the angle and pressure usually. I lived in Japan for 3 years, my ass has never been so clean as those 3 years.

    • oce 🐆OP
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      Another issue I forgot to mention. I often find a company toilet bowl, but also part of the seat, covered in sprayed brown water because the last person didn’t seal his butt correctly and didn’t clean up. So disgusting people can weaponize this technology.

      • @zigmus64@lemmy.world
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        Ew…. Yeah, let me clarify that the bidets I use are toilet seat attachments I’ve installed in my own home, so any weaponization of liquipoo is likely of my own making to terrorize my family. I don’t think I’ve encountered a bidet in a public restroom here Stateside.

  • oce 🐆OP
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    I would like to start a series of random posts about life in Tokyo from a Parisian perspective. I’ll try to show the good, the bad and the in-between. I make no promises in terms of frequency or objectivity.

    • @Xelloss
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      I’ve been in Japan last summer, here are some suggestions of things to analyse, that I felt contrasted a lot with what we have in Paris :

      • Tokyo subway
      • Combini meals
      • Bread
      • Donki and Big Camera and what kind of stuff can be found inside
      • being a pedestrian in the city

      Anyway, have fun in your travels !

      • oce 🐆OP
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        23 months ago

        Thank you for the suggestions, I did plan to mention some of those.

      • oce 🐆OP
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        23 months ago

        I didn’t know if English was allowed so I started here but I can cp or you can if you want.

        • TGhost [She/Her]
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          23 months ago

          Yeah of course,
          I cp this one, but i hope i dont miss then the next ah ah :)

          France got a big speed timeline, Btw just for you, france got the rule 7… saying that the subject/content has to be in direct relation with the france or french… (i dont like this one, i want it deleted XD).

          So you can post it, in addition to !japon@jlai.lu, i would say : !monde@jlai.lu !forumlibre@jlai.lu

          • oce 🐆OP
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            13 months ago

            Ok for cross-posting to Japon, is it useful to cp to more?

            @Syl@jlai.lu, is my post against the rules here, considering that I’m giving a point of view from a French perspective?

            • TGhost [She/Her]
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              23 months ago

              Japon isnt mandatory after all :) I will just be glad to see that kind of content there.

              For France, then my bad, syl spoke,
              ;)

            • Syl ⏚M
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              23 months ago

              nah it’s fine, we also have toilets in France 😛

              My neighbour also has this kind of toilet.

            • TGhost [She/Her]
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              13 months ago

              Japon isnt mandatory after all :) I will just be glad to see that kind of content there.

              For France, then my bad, syl spoke,
              ;)

  • @tcit@beehaw.org
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    I’ve seen toilets with sinks a few times in France as well, it’s available for people to buy.

  • @AquaTofana@lemmy.world
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    23 months ago

    Coincidentally enough, the first time I encountered thus kind of toilet was in a Hausmann flat in the Latin Quarter of Paris in late winter 2022! That made me kind of assume that these were ubiquitous to Paris because I didn’t encounter them in Germany or Belgium or Eastern France.

    Now I know that was a conscious choice that the flat owner made!