• Æsc@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Regardless of who they vote for, there are only two possible outcomes to the election, unless one of the nominees dies before then. Either Trump will win, or Biden will win. If you want Biden to lose, that only happens if Trump wins.

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        I fail to see how the outcome of an election could affect a nation’s politics in a long-term meaningful way. Why are you so worried about an election? It’s a popularity contest for morons. Go buy a gun and learn to make some real change in the world.

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        And the way you get votes is by appealing to voters, not by scaremongering about the other candidate. That tactic especially doesn’t work when you platform is the same.

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          First-past-the-post voting incentivizes voting against the candidate you don’t want to win by voting for the candidate most likely to beat him. So scaremongering about the other candidate is a strategy often used to great effect. Trump used scaremongering against Hillary in 2016. Trump’s using scaremongering against Biden now. George H.W. Bush famously used scaremongering about crime to win.

          Also their platforms are not the same. Trump has Project 2025.

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            often used to great effect.

            And then you go on to cite the 2016 election.
            Are you doing a bit? Do you not recall the pied-piper strategy the Dems tried? You keep referring to “successful” examples, but they’re all republicans lol.

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              I thought you were the one who said the Democratic and Republican platforms are the same. Now you’re noticing that the examples of winning with scaremongering are all Republican wins. Are you doing a bit?

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                ??? Their platforms are the same, but the republicans actually want the platform enacted. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the republican” doesn’t work when you have the same policy. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the democrat” works for the republican, because republican voters think democrats are demons wearing skin suits.
                What is it with you people and pretending you don’t understand basic textual communication? Do you think your sad attempts at gotchas aren’t noticed? Go back to Reddit and argue with a bot

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            The fascist are always going to have been scary rhing that make liberals fascism more palletable and swallowable, even if its in someways worse than the big scary republican bs. Lets just fuck off that whole thing completely

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            And the democrat platform is to let Republicans install planks of Project 2025 while Democrats have the ball; so fuck that line of thought too lmao. You’re not cudgeling this out for your genocidal dixiecrat.

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        If genocide Joe wants to win he has to make a compelling case that he is going to be meaningfully better than Trump on the issues that matters to voters.

        Until now he has been working hard to make the opposite case.

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        Oh man, remember when it wasn’t going to be an issue because trump was going to jail any minute now we totally promise™?

        How many daddy’s of the week have to be wrong before you stop believing he will he held to any account? You really think somehow, jack smith is going to do anything? Best bet is it will be another wet fart like Mueller or whatever the last daddy of the week was.

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        I want Biden to lose.

        I also want Trump yo lose.

        That’s why I’m not voting for either of them.

        If enough voters suddenly developed a conscience and rejected genocide, voted third party, neither genocidal monster would win. But sure, be mad at the people who oppose genocide instead of all the little Nazis who support genocide.