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      They need the data centers to operate the totalitarian surveillance state and killbots.

      The proles aren’t gonna genocide themselves once their labor has been automated.

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    How you going Americans? Pretty shit I bet being dictated over by the leader you voted in.

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    Just FYI, most boards will ask that those attending refrain from clapping after every speaker so that the meetings can advance without interruption. These board meetings have agendas and some can last all day. If there was clapping after every speech, it could stretch the duration quite a bit, so the board usually sets limits on behavior in the room.

    Im curious how many times they asked her to please stop clapping. Looks like they were warned multiple times.

    Also, regarding the speaking too long arrest, the boards also set limitations on calls to the public. Its usually about 3 minutes or so. If they didnt set time limits, people could just jabber on all day and the board wouldnt be able to conclude their meetings and get to other agenda items.

    The point is, be prepared, make your case, be concise, and respect the time of everyone there. You can strongly oppose flock cameras and give others a chance to also oppose them.

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      This is the tyranny of oppression. The rich can violate our rights but we must stay within dictated time limits and professional non-disruptive behavior.

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        The problem is not that we must attain to rules, but they do not, we should make them complain, because rules exist for a reason, and that’s what literally what they are doing having none.

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      If you think it’s reasonable to use violence to make sure a meeting stays on schedule, I think there’s little for us to discuss. That sort of thinking allows the state to continue to do fucked up shit and peg those who respond with appropriate outrage as “being unreasonable” or even “violent.” See, for example, the viral video of a trans woman being arrested in FL for demanding a tiny modicum of respect.

      Nothing changes by playing strictly by the rules because the people doing fucked up shit make the rules and they are designed to prevent change.

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        Every meeting is someone’s revolution.

        The boards/councils are typically elected officials who the people chose to lead these meetings. You’re always welcome to gather your peers and tell the board members that that they should allow more time to complain. Another option is to run for office and set the new standard. This is why local elections are super important, and people should get involved with various levels of government instead of just the federal level stuff.

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          All of that is working so well. 🙄

          ETA: the above is essentially the schoolhouse rock understanding of our political system. Unfortunately, it ignores the reality of a system designed to stymie citizens’ ability to affect change. Wait your turn, speak when permitted, get to vote for city council once every four years is a system where playing by the rules does nothing. Especially when over the course of those few years while attempting to oust those fuckers, numerous long-term damaging contracts can be signed and not easily gotten rid of by those who succeed them even if the political will is there. Yes, local politics is important, but being polite and abiding by all the rules is a sure means to get nothing done.

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            Who says you have to be polite? You can go up and speak your mind without being polite. You absolutely have the right to.

            Not all elected officials are on 4 year cycles. You are discounting how soon you can affect change. It starts today. Go start your revolution and tell the people who represent you in our government what you would like them to do. They don’t know your side of the story until you tell them.

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              The problem is that speaking one’s mind within the limited frameworks provided does very little. In order to get a politician to pay attention you must, at minimum, make them uncomfortable or threaten their political future.

              Here’s a concrete example of what "telling your representative what you’d like them to do accomplishes (received in response to a letter I wrote to my senator against KOSA):

              Thank you for writing to share your thoughts regarding online safety for children and teens. I appreciate hearing from you.

              Our children are among the most vulnerable members of our society, and I strongly believe that we have an obligation to care for their mental and physical well-being. Digital platforms have become key spaces for education, socialization, and entertainment for young people, and it is important that they are able to utilize these services safely.

              The “Kids Online Safety Act” (S.1748), introduced by Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), seeks to provide young people and their parents with tools, safeguards, and information that would be helpful to safely navigate online services. This bill is awaiting consideration by the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, of which I am not a member.

              I voted in favor of this bill on the Senate floor last Congress because I believe many of its provisions would meaningfully help protect the health, wellbeing, and safety of children and teens online. I take seriously your concerns that this bill may have negatively impacted individual privacy and freedom of expression online. The sponsors made substantive changes to the bill aimed at mitigating those very issues, which is why I ultimately felt comfortable supporting the bill on the floor.

              Please know that I appreciate hearing your perspective on this important issue, and I will keep your thoughts in mind as I continue working with my Senate colleagues on issues that address the experiences of minors online.

              Once again, thank you for writing. Should you have any other questions or comments, please call my Washington, D.C. office at…

              Due to corporate influence, no number of letters will move these congress critters to do anything in the interests of the average person. We sadly live in the world we live in now due to the lies told to generations of children that voting is all you need to do and that the system is designedtoo uphold our rights. Can political pressure work? Yes, but it requires doing things that make politicians uncomfortable, which might include, God forbid, clapping at a fucking city council meeting.

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                So you think clapping at meetings and talking longer than the time allocated to you is going to have a different result?

                • Well, tactics like that were the only thing that got my city to cancel their flock contract, so yeah. They demanded we limit flock comments to a short portion of the meetings and we continued to flood every meeting and every topic until they had no choice but to listen. Its’s like yall never heard the disobedience in civil disobedience.

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        I mean, what option do you have if the person just refuses to act right? From the explanation above, it sounds like they were making the meeting even more unbearable than it already would have been.

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          Making the meeting unbearable is the point. It is one of few ways us peons have to make our elected officials listen to our concerns. They’re not supposed to be comfortable. Again, if you believe it’s appropriate to use state violence against a person who is clapping, I think you’ve got some messed up priorities.

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              For those who are hard of hearing or understanding: if you think that violence (as in laying hands on someone) is an appropriate response to being mildly inconvenienced, you have some screwy values and should have a look at that.

              This is exactly what MLK was talking about re: the white moderate preferring a negative peace to the pursuit of justice. Fuck that noise.