…due to seemingly installing adware on PCs and telling you to warn guests they may be recorded by AI features, to comply with ‘wiretapping’ laws

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    Remember just a few years ago, all the main tech companies and Government were gaslighting the shit out of everyone about the targeted advertising stuff? It’s not listening to you! The ADs based on what you’re talking about are just coincidental!

    Maybe no one remembers this for some reason. Of course they just get away with all the lying

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    Going to be so sad the day my 2014 TV dies. I guess I could just buy a big computer monitor? Hopefully not one of these ones though Jesus Christ. Do they make TV sized computer monitors? I don’t even use the tv part of my tv anymore.

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      You don’t have to connect your TV to the internet. I’m going to use my Steam Machine as a cable box, or if you’re younger, a “Roku”

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        That’s true enough. I remember hearing something about some of them in some making even this difficult, like refusing to work with HDMI input without internet connection or looking for wifi networks it can connect to without your input either way but maybe I’m just being overly pessimistic about it. Been behind the times so long I’m not really sure what the state of things is. I’d heard stuff about buying commercial displays and then got a bit discouraged about the idea given their expense and relatively “worse” performance as a tv in general. I don’t necessarily mind sticking with HD and nothing much better than the best 2014 had to offer but I’d feel a bit pissed at paying through the nose for it. It’s also apparently near impossible to actually buy a commercial display as an individual consumer.

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          Yeah, I’m currently rocking a hacked LG Web OS from 2019. But that bitch is about to be factory reset and have it’s WiFi antenna removed. Trying to connect to random open access points sounds about right for shitty IoT devices…

          I haven’t heard of refusing an HDMI signal without WiFi. Sounds plausible for really low end TVs.

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      From the Gamers Nexus video I watched on this, the software gets installed via Windows Update, so I think you’d have to block OS updates too. For the moment, the fix appears to be Group Policy Editting to tell Windows not to install hardware related software automatically when it detects said hardware connected.

      Edit: That’s just for the PC monitor side of things. The TV side might work, though you’d be blocking TV OS updates.

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    Connecting your tv to the internet is a terrible idea and has been for years. If you have webos and must connect it for some reason root it, block all updates (they rarely include bug fixes, just make the UI more sluggish with increased advertising), and block all lg ad domains in your router.

    ||snu.lge.com^ ||su.lge.com^ ||su-ssl.lge.com^ ||snu-dev.lge.com^ ||su-dev.lge.com^ ||nsu.lge.com^

    Are the domains to block, formatted for adguard.

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      Yeah but this is going a step further. This is also happening for PC monitors which are a bit harder to keep away from internet seeing as they connect to your internet-connected computer. Router blocking will help there too of course but the average user will not be able to set this up.

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        The monitor thing is crazy because I have no idea why you would install software for your computer monitor?? Like the monitor itself isn’t connected to the internet and the adware comes from installing some lg monitor tools suite, and I have no clue why you would do that? Like are people really dead set on changing their monitor input via pc instead of the monitor osd??

        Monitor should and does just work. Lg just scams people into installing unnecessary software because it’s harder to shove ads into a computer monitor

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          Windows does that automatically. The software is part of the LG monitor driver and is distributed through Microsoft’s automatic driver setup infrastructure.

          There’s an obscure GPO that can prevent Windows from auto-installing “related files” but of course most people don’t know it exists or that it’s yet another core OS feature you have to turn off to use Windows in peace.

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            To prevent this kind of thing in future, run gpedit.msc and enable “Prevent automatic download of applications associated with device metadata” under Computer Configuration → Administrative Templates → System → Device Installation.

            Thanks to:@floofloof@lemmy.ca

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            “I turned it off but it got turned on again during the next update.” There is no peace. To use Windows is to constantly be at war.

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            That’s the part I’m confused by. Why does a non touchscreen monitor even need a driver? It should work fine before windows is even in the picture?

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              Might be glorified ICC profiles. Normally EDID should cover most bases already but I can see how config files might improve matters.

              Of course there is no justification for adding a dropper for unwanted programs.

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          I have no idea why you would install software for your computer monitor??

          AI. They need to be able to scan the pixels for…reasons

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      I didn’t connect my tv to the internet, I never accepted the terms of service. All you’re supposed to do is display what the HDMI tells you to.

      Sadly the vendor that recommended this TV didn’t get the message that I wanted a dumb TV

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      I mean, that’s a bit complicated, and they can always change the domains. I just block the whole-ass TV from WAN. I can still interface with it for smart home stuff on LAN, but it can’t update or access anything outside my network. And since it has an IP on the LAN, it doesn’t bitch and moan about not having network.

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      Unlike a lot of what I see on the internet your TV is 10000% listening to you (sole purpose is to target ads) anyway just disconnect or isolate your TV from the internet.

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      Super short version for those who don’t want to fight the site, some lg monitors install upsettingly comprehensive spyware onto your computer.

      Some lg tvs, years after purchase and with no warning, do the same thing to themselves. Like sleeper agents.

      And I’m not talking “monitor the images” spyware, I’m talking “listen in on your every word and send the transcript to lg” level spyware. “We have clauses around wiretapping wormed into the user agreement” level spying.

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    When I was shopping for a new monitor a while back I stayed away from “Smart” monitors with their own operation system. I’m connecting it to a computer, why would I spend an extra $600 when the exact same monitor without an operating system exists?

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      I didn’t know the smart disease had infected computer monitors too. Seems like a harder sell even for those unconcerned with privacy. What could it possibly do that the computer it’s connected to wouldn’t be used for? If it’s a computer monitor it’s usually physically installed in a space you set aside for computer related stuff so even if you wanted all the “smart” features of a smart tv you’d be unlikely to want them there .

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      Look! You can watch Netflix on this monitor!

      Well, yes, there’s a PC stuck on it, of course I can.

      No, you can watch it without the PC!

      Why would I want to use a monitor without a PC?

      It’s only half again as expensive! It’s a steal!

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        Tbf, you could probably actually stream Netflix at 4K on it since it gets limuted to something like 720p in the browser. But that’s just because Netflix are bastards, not because of technical limits

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          it gets limited to something like 720p in the browser

          I think that depends on the browser (for reasons that I never really looked into). Some do 720p (I think that’s Firefox), some do ~1k (the Chrome based ones), maybe more.

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    uBlock Origin anyone for the shitty ads? How do you folks even use internet without adblockers?! I don’t give a shit if it “pays” for the websites, it’s shit.

    As for LG, I put it on my shit list. Their panels might be good, but I will never buy TV or monitor branded by them after seeing this shit. Then again my MSI motherboard has its dumbass Armory whatever driver nonsense that I need to disable in BIOS every time I reset CMOS which is pissing me off too.

    Issue here is actually combination of shitty behavior from both, LG and Microsoft. LG doesn’t technically inject anything, they just send a hardware flag to Windows which then just gladly pulls shit from internet and runs it. Not only it’s annoying as fuck, this is malicious behavior and on top of that huge security risk. If anyone hijacks this shit from LG and Windows will just gladly parse and execute WHATEVER binary on millions of LG monitors. WHAT. THE. FUCK. You don’t have to compromise each individual system, you just need to compromise single target which is LG. I don’t think I need to further explain how that is insanely bad idea and Microsoft should disable this bullshit in Windows ASAP. I hope there will be more outrage about this…

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      The ads are inherent in the software which Windows 11 automatically downloads as soon as you plug in the LG monitor. It doesn’t ask, and you will get the ads even with an adblocker because they are not shown in a browser, but in Windows itself.

      The best solution is not to use LG or Windows.

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      This annoys me intensely. I don’t own a tv or monitor from LG, but I do have an excellent (dumb) washing machine and fridge, I would have updated my TV which is currently a fairly basic Samsung TV, because of it’s ads and I’ve decided they are on my shit list for this kind of thing.

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    “Whoever came up with this…”

    Executive with shit eating grin in the corner of the room

    “And I’ll fuckin’ do it again”

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      When I’m at someone’s house and the YouTube video kicks into 4k 60fps its noticeable.

      Its almost too distracting when you’re not used to it. When its gone I miss it for a day or two but ultimately wasn’t the reason I enjoyed it.

      I’ll watch YouTube on my phone at 480p because I pretty much grew up on metered internet and it just feels wasteful. But I’m the type of guy to play at 1080p mid settings (uncapped distance and frames if possible tho) to give my PC a easy time. Even if have the media installed locally I’m going 720p tops because now storage is more important.

      The only time I’ll fully let myself enjoy high res high quality media is if its a physical form like a blue ray. Other than that in the back of my mind I’m always thinking about how ray tracing and crazy high rez is kind of a gimmick, and how I would rather have more frames or conserve my hardware.