Found this post thanks to @kasdeya@cryptid.cafe who posted it three years ago on her old timeline. Somebody boosted it on mine today and I knew I had to post it here.


⚠️ IMPORTANT REMINDER:

THIS IS A WOMEN ONLY COMMUNITY & SPACE

See "Rule 1: Women only…

Trans women are women, and transphobic or gender critical talk isn’t allowed. Anyone under the trans umbrella (e.g. non-binary, bigender, agender) is free to decide whether a women’s community is a good fit for them."

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    16 hours ago

    I get dolled up and pretty for me. I work from home so sometimes it’s with the understanding that nobody will see it but my wife - Though it does then also make me more confident at the store.

    My favorite part lately has been realizing that my passing and being pretty are two separate categories. As in, even if I don’t pass 100% yet, I’m still cute, still pretty to look at and dammit that’s a good feeling lol.

    But yeah, ladies! 🗣️You owe pretty to nobody but yourself!

  • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 hours ago

    I’m a trans girl, and I really don’t pass (except for my voice kinda). I can really only dress and wear makeup for my own enjoyment.

    Even with bold eyeliner, I still get he/him’d. I’m honestly not sure if it’s transphobia, acceptance of feminine men, or obliviousness.

    Most days, I kinda just boymode (despite my nametag lol). I don’t even know anymore. Fuck gender norms or whatever.

  • MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    23 hours ago

    If I try to look pretty, I sometimes get compliments, but sometimes get misgendered anyway. If I just decide not to care about my appearance, I’m only slightly more likely to get misgendered, and weirdly, sometimes I get compliments for things I never would have anticipated despite feeling gross.

    I have no control over how others perceive me. It’s honestly a roll of the dice whether people are nice, apathetic, or hostile. Chaos. I’ve learned whatever amount of effort I decide to look on a particular day, I just do it for myself.

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    I love how much less I care now. It is a certain freedom that is so incredibly….relaxing. Knowing deep down that how I look is completely separate from what I want to do releases some deep internal misogyny that was holding me to task for being “ugly”.

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      Yeah, it was a rocky road for me, but I’m really happy now that I genuinely DGAF.

      Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy when I see youngsters doing their own thing and not complying with patriarchal expectations :-)

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    I’ve learned to see how I make myself look (or don’t) as self care. It all depends on my mood, my energy level, my expression on the sliding gender scale, etc. I’d be lying if I said I never “dress up” for others, like for professional reasons (I hate that I feel the need to), but the scenarios mentioned - its about how I’m feeling in that moment.

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    Yeah but if I go out without makeup on, people think I’m sick or something, lol. I have to at least put on foundation which SUCKS during the summer because it tends to smudge off. T_T

    Best part about living in Japan is it’s socially acceptable/expected to wear masks everywhere you go. So the makeup thing is definitely not as bad as in the US.

  • cybermass@lemmy.caBanned from community
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    Literally every woman ive known gets pretty for themselves, not others. Most people don’t give a shit if you look pretty or not, if you think they do then you are just being narcissistic lmao

    • ZDL@lazysoci.al
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      24 hours ago

      From earlier:

      Sadly the manosphere don’t listen to no…

      Case in point. I mean the rule was directly quoted in the very message this twit was responding to and he still couldn’t read it. #NotAllMen sure, but #AlwaysAMan.

    • Omega@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
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      As a trans woman, my ability to “pass”, ergo, be traditionally pretty and feminine is the thing that determines my ability to be able to live peacefully in public and to survive my very existence. As if I liked having panic attacks because I don’t think I look feminine enough to be able to go too far from my home because I need to build my entire life around the possibility that some guy may get confused about his sexuality when hitting on me if they clock me, feel emasculated and turn me into a statistic. Or god forbid, I don’t match with some arbitrary bullshit if I want to go piss in a public women’s bathroom. But sure, do come and tell me that I’m just being narcissistic.

      Sure, a lot of that is for me because dysphoria is horrible but dysphoria would be a lot easier to move around and to explore if the world I was in wasn’t such a misogynistic and by extension transphobic shithole.

    • Wren@lemmy.today
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      Are you a woman? Literally every woman I know, including myself, gets judged daily on their appearance.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.worksBanned from community
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    As a man i can tell you that being visually appealing to others is extremely helpful in life. It’s not necessary but I’ll be damned if it ain’t useful when you want or need something. When I look more appealing to people they are more likely to hear me out and help me. If for instance I looked creepy or dangerous to someone they are far less likely to help.

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      As a woman I can tell you nobody asked for your opinion in this group. And I can tell you even more (even though I’m not obliged): looking creepy, dangerous and unappealing can be used to get exactly what one wants as a woman: to be left alone.

      ( farts, walks of stage while picking her nose. )

    • velma@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      Please respect the rules for this community.

      Which were restated inside of the post itself.

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        Dude, this is a space for women. We do not appreciate this type of incel language here. Gross!

      • Omega@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
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        By the way, this attitude is exactly why you are unfuckable. Women can spot walking red flags like you from a mile away. We all learn to recognize your type the second you open your mouth sooner or later, it quickly becomes a survival instinct.

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        I don’t think you can throw around words like “hypergamous” when you can’t understand the basic words in this post.

        If you want to have an actual conversation you should find someone closer to your reading level, like maybe at a playground.