Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they’re unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm
Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg
Militant vegans always seemed cult-like to me, and nothing reinforced that idea more than seeing posts from the vegan group on here.
Didn’t take long for me to block that community.
One of the first communities I blocked.
Likewise.
Lemmy vegans are a never ending source of entertainment, aren’t they?
Also, I had a quick look through the community, and it’s mostly one person posting, with a big chunk of their posts attracting zero comments.
Very strange.
It used to be pretty active, but everyone bailed right around when the mods started with the purity tests and thumbscrews. Like most subcultures viewed as ‘cringe’, the reputation comes from one or two users being fucking weirdos and then everyone reposting their insanity for meme points.
You know what’s worse than being a fake vegan? Being a fake gamer.
PTB for sure, they’re removing comments not 100% in support of them which is iffy, but now they are trying to decide that people aren’t real vegans because they don’t agree with the mods, WTF?!?
Also is it just me or does this mod seem like they might be an Alt of Beaver (a previous mod of the Vegan community who was removed from the community for power-tripping) was known for making alts and trying to sneak herself back in as mod a few times with her alts, as well as fostering ill will towards the mod who removed her using her alt accounts. She ultimately deleted her accounts after being called out for the behavior and when these tactics weren’t working.
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world Maybe you might want to look into this, it’s very possible the person who was power-tripping before was somehow able to get back in as a mod on an alt account without you or other mods knowing it was them.
Almost all vegans are “fake”. Start with the bees used to pollinate the food. End with a wasp dying in a fig…
It’s all definition in the end. I think that’s random and the mod is random. But idk, let them echo chamber a little.
unrelated to the drama:
who are these ‘screenshots’ for? because they’re so small and compressed I cannot read the text… are these automated or?
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They’re not. That’s your instance showing you the thumbnail instead of the real image, for some reason. Contact your admins to see if they can fix the problem, and in the meantime view the image from another instance.
fascinating, I use lemmy.world, appreciate the feedback
Resolution is fine your peoples
clientinstance is just trashNot the client’s fault. The instance’s.
Cheers
Use some punctuation. I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
You’re still missing punctuation.
The vegan Community is actually quite shit. They don’t hesitate to delete your comment just because you aren’t a vegan, even if you agree with them in certain points.
There’s a word that describes communities like that, echochambers.
Love the user name. Ruminant revolution!
Its a fact. Also cows are much cooler than horses, because unlike them they are actually useful. Also I cows are very chill so you can cuddle with them a lot.
can cows be ridden?
They can.
For a short time.
I can’t read that but yeah the Vegan community here has a long history of being total assholes.
Knee-jerk reactionary vegans? In a vegan community?
You don’t say!
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I see what you did there :)
wow, the power tripping mods removed my comment… i guess they like irony
I removed your comment because it’s out of topic and it’s bringing up a completely other drama to spike controversy. I.e. you’re trolling.
While we’re on the topic of modding in this thread, GrammarPolice got banned, but it doesn’t look like the comment that they were banned for has been removed. Is this intentional?
If there’s a good-faith counter-aguments already on that thread and might leave the originating comment up so that their effort is not lost.
I was talking specifically about the giant ascii art with a profane curse as the only text.
But I just had a look and it seems like it was removed, but that the removal hasn’t federated to my instance properly. Dammit, I thought the recent update had fixed LW’s federation problems.
you’re insane… that was completely on topic and i wasn’t “trolling”, i was discussing
and you’re completely power tripping to remove that.You were off-topic and trolling. You were not discussing, you were bellyaching and bringing up another drama-laden topic that has been discussed to death and had multiple threads about it locked in this very comm. Now stop whinging and touch grass ffs. I just removed one of your comments. didn’t even ban you.
yo bpr that fool
bellyaching
i’m talking about the overarching motivation of concern trolling vs simple power tripping, because of the vegan “modding”. my “belly” is not aching and that original discussion didn’t even involve me.
i’m not trolling, i think the dragonfucker is a perfect example of concern trolling… and i suspect a similar motivation to that is what motivated the vegan mods…. it’s a entirely topical, and you’re power tripping to just unilaterally remove that with no discussion.it’s called “comparing”, and something people often do when talking about a topic
In any case, that drama was off-topic, doesn’t seem like powertripping to remove it.
it wasn’t at all off topic, it was exactly on topic
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Exactly
Your resolution is weak.
I (a vegan) got banned from there for finding the love of cows cloying. I said we shouldn’t have to pretend cows are cute to convince others not to kill and eat them.
It really isn’t a place for even back and forth amongst friends, “no conversation - only agreement”
I think cows are adorable (in a positive manner :D) but yes, completely agree. Being a vegan shouldn’t require that you passionately love being in contact with all kinds of species. I mean - despite them playing a role in the ecosystem - who loves ticks or mosquitoes?
Ticks and mosquitoes aren’t vegan either, are they? That has nothing to do with liking them, it just suddenly occurred to me.
I’m not sure if there’s any species other than humans that would be considered ‘vegan’. My feeling is that it requires some kind of explicit choice to explicitly go plant-based only despite being able to digest all kind of food. An animal that’s 100% plant-based would be probably rather called herbivore than vegan. But maybe there are also some species or individuals that are exactly like that and we as humans just don’t know about it.
cloying
adjective
excessively sweet, rich, or sentimental, especially to a disgusting or sickening degreeNeat, new word.
Actually it’s from the 14th century
New word for them
The truly unreasonable part of this is how horrible your screencaps are. How do you even get screencaps to be that low res? Did you scale them way down?
Is that a client-specific thing? On my end they’re sharp and readable (Boost for Lemmy), even in preview mode (before clicking on HD for full resolution), I can read everything.
jesus christ. i don’t think i’ve ever seen a longer sidebar as I scroll down to the modlog… not a good start…
and okay, so the mod is unhappy about a vegan restaurant turning to non-veganry to stay alive? to the point where they’re silencing all discussion of it in a positive or even ambivalent light? This seems like there’s more to it than the mod is willing to admit publicly. “the restaurant isn’t vegan” doesn’t account for “it’s a shame but I’d rather an otherwise vegan restaurant survive than not. how sad” and “it seems like there just weren’t enough vegans in town to keep it alive” being banned. it’s clear ethics policing and again, im sensing some passive-aggression and unstated resentments on the mod’s part.
