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Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

“But I still want to get paid for it.”

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    We just need to be advocating for solutions that go beyond what capitalist markets can offer.

    Most of the people posting here currently live under capitalism. Unless you have solutions you want to advocate for now that for some reason you left unsaid in your post, it sounds more like a “stop complaining” proposal.

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        I haven’t seen that for some time, unless you’re broad brushing people that don’t like when artists stop getting commissions or lose their livelihoods entirely.

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            In the current economic system you’re saying that artists trying to get paid for making art should effectively cease to exist.

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                Feel that way if you must, but I am explaining why a lot of people here aren’t quite as bazinga for the treat printers when it comes to driving artists entirely out of the craft because of economic precarity, consequently leading to even more expansion of the bland and bleak brave new world of treat printers.

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                    the vast majority of artists don’t make money doing art and never will if they don’t work at a company

                    Are you so certain of that?

                    I don’t understand this take

                    You may be more correct there than you realize, especially regarding my first question there.

                    maybe it’s because I’m so into fanfiction but like there will always be millions of people making more art than you know what to do with

                    Yeah fanfiction is cool and good but there really are people, from paid-by-commission artists to graphic designers to writers under publisher contracts that are all affected by treat printers. Their material conditions have worsened and precarity has increased. “You got yours,” so to speak, but that doesn’t mean you speak for everyone else there. Losing a job sucks; that shouldn’t be hard for you to understand.

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      That’s not what I’m saying though. It’s more that I think arguing for better protections under IP law is akin to participating in get out the vote campaigns for democrats. If the goal is to better conditions for working people including artists, neither of those avenues will lead you anywhere.

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        Again.

        Post your your supposed “solutions” to advocate for.

        Otherwise you still read like you’re a treat printer enjoyer that wants everyone to stop complaining, no matter how the planet burns.

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          You’re only reading me that way because you’re lumping my arguments in with all the pro AI nonsense that’s out there. I honestly don’t care for any of the slop AI models tend to produce and it’s not reasonable to assume that I do.

          Also my arguments stand on their own. Even if there are no near term solutions to the plight of artists that doesn’t mean reifying the concept of intellectual property is worth anything.

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            Also my arguments stand on their own.

            Then stop bullshitting and actually provide what I asked for. Post your supposed “solutions” to advocate for.