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    I don’t mind AI, but I hate it being baked into every application with its own subscription to access. Just give me an MCP server to connect to when/if I decide I want to use AI with your application.

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    I was prompted by this announcement to download it. An office suite came installed by default with this machine, but I want to support their numbers and start promoting it to others.

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        I’m an accountant. I use Libreoffice to write complex written documents and manage reasonably large data sets for 40 hours a week for the last decade, and openoffice before that. I encourage my small team to do the same and for the most part, they do. We all have both libreoffice and microsoft suites on our desktops.

        It’s fine. I feel like it’s the humble workhorse that has served me very well for many years with no fuss.

        I’m sure someone will be along in a moment to tell us all about how any serious professional uses excel. There always is in these threads.

        For my own part I feel like LibreOffice is one of the great success stories of open source.

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          Same here, i had a business, 80 employees, 4 retail spaces. I used Open office and then Libre Office. I sold my business. many years back but still use Libre office today

          I started on Lotus 1-2-3

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          I worked at a nonprofit that helped out homeless people. 500+ employees, terminals at dozens of locations, all using Ubuntu and LibreOffice for everything. It was fine. Uneventful, even. And they saved sooo much money because they never had to pay a dime to anyone besides the internal IT department. This open source stuff is imo better than the big corporate products for professional use because updates don’t break workflows as much.

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          I’m a Very Serious professional (inhouse) accountant. I use Excel because Visual Basic allows me to access the file system and automate everything. I don’t like it, but it is what it is. I sometimes make sheets that don’t even open Excel. In Excel of course. It’s probably not the right tool for that, but it’s the hammer that I’ve got and which the company allows.

          I know that LibreOffice also have macros, but in comparison, it’s much more difficult to program because there isn’t 1000 other accounts asking the same question online, so ressources are scarce.

          Also the keyboard shortcut for Autosum. Can’t find it in LibreOffice. At this point, it’s the only formula that I use, because I have been accustomed to entering my data in a way that everything is a sum. Substraction is a sum including a negative number. Multiplication is a sum of sums. Division is the opposite of multiplication, so also a sum. I only use Sum, with the occasional Sumif, Sumifs and SumProduct.

          I do use LibreOffice at home, but do wish they’d make a keyboard shortcut for Sum.

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        In my former job they kept telling me (well ordering/demanding is closer) to use MS office, I held on to LibreOffice. The usual 'we have complex documents" excuse yet no one ever noticed my rebellion.

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      Technocratic billionaires who want to enslave everyone who isn’t white, rich, male, and in their little club.

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        Enslavement is the old, pre-AI mindset.

        They want to replace all labor with AI, then exterminate us. They’ll start with pointless wars, disease, etc. Then on to starvation and dehydration. And once our numbers are whittled down enough, they’ll send in the drones to wipe out any last survivors.

        For all of history the ruling class has been ‘held back’ by one crucial flaw: as much as they detest us, they need the workers to actually do the labor and build the luxuries they enjoy. With ever more advanced AI, that age is ending … or at least that’s what they think.

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        Do Satya Nadella and Sundar Pichai strike you as extremely white names?

        Edit: to be clear, some of those people are really quite racist… But I am not so sure that’s such a determining factor in the larger sector.

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          I guess just “technocratic billionaires who want to own everything” is enough of a descriptor, then.

          And I don’t think “their little club” is a factor, either. If they ever manage to own everything, they’ll just go after each other sooner or later, and their insatiable greed will burn the world to ashes.

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          Not much for the history of white supremacists and how they use useful idiots, huh? Yes, there are awful people of every race color and creed that think they’ll be in the fun authoritarian group. What a novel realization you’ve come across.

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        White is not an actual concern of theirs, they pretend it is because they are allied to the right wing’s sort of base in that sense. That right wing will be enslaved like everyone else without money if they get their way, and plenty of non white rich will be in the club.

        It’s about class, it’s always been about class to the ruling class.

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          You clearly haven’t read their very publicly published self aggrandizing autobiographies and ranting about their plans for a white supremacist technocratic serfdom, they state plainly that blood and soil is very much a concern of theirs.

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            I have not directly read them, I have links on another computer though somewhere saved, from the collapse dudes on that corporate social media forget what they were called, what is the name of the great thinker of theirs, Yarvin and all.

            Be all that as it may, the way it will play out is those with the means to protect themselves (for now they will alll be ground under the boot,) will be fine, and that includes a lot of non white foreign rich.

            And that most of the racism from the ruling class is just playing the rubes so they can make more money and get more unaccountable power.

            It really is like that, even as many are racist themselves as you allude to.

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      It’s literally 1/4 of the entire worlds stock market and superannuation and investments now… And a lot more in derivatives (bets on how the future will pan out).

      So… the entire world’s leaders and financial industry is either FOMO or holding, and throwing stuff into the cash fire in the hope the flame doesn’t go out and tank the entire world in a financial disaster that’ll rival that of 100 years ago.

      Its beyond reckless.

      Even if the cookers are right and AI pans out and it does replace 30% of jobs or something - congrats, leaders and finance dregs, now you have an entirely new disaster to deal with that you funded.

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      Didn’t you hear!? We did it, we have AGI this time™. It’s the future bro! This time it’ll be different! Just one more datacenter! Just a few thousand more GPUs and you too can own AGI!

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    Oh what a dystopia we live in. We went from companies declaring they have AI as a feature added to their product, to companies declaring they don’t have AI added to their products to promote them. A clear sign AI is complete slop.

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      It heavily depends on what market they are trying to tap in. LibreOffice always was in the Linux marketpalce, where chances are you will find a community of more privacy oriented people that prefer less bloat, less telemetry and third party dependencies. It only makes sense for them to keep an “old school cool” approach.

      Wish more companies would be like that, but sadly we live in our own bubble and there are A TON of people that just simply traded in their brains for AI these days.

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    I love LibreOffice.

    My only complaint using it every day at work is [a complaint against microsoft] how much my company uses microsoft products (but won’t shell out for office licenses for 90% of staff) and microsoft purposefully makes their shit not display or read Libre files correctly to try to keep their grubby monopoly claws dug into everyone.

    My IT staff is too stupid to send announcements out to a BCC list and causes reply-all waves about once a month so I am not holding out hope that we make any progress as a company towards smart computing.

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      How the hell is sending to high user count DLs not restricted to people capable of thinking and breathing at the same time (or managment, which ever signs your paychecks)?

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        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… inhale HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

        Anyone with access to a computer can e-mail the entire company with one address. Hell, the way they are setup, I would not even be a little bit shocked to find out someone outside the company e-mail system could e-mail the entire company if that address got leaked…

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      Oh damn I remember working at a telecom company in the early 2000s. About once every quarter someone would email the corporate distribution list with an announcement that was intended for just their team.

      The subsequent avalanche of people replying all with “don’t CC me on this kind of email” followed by the inevitable follow up of people with no self awareness replying all that people shouldn’t be so stupid as to reply all to a corporate wide email because it can crash the email server followed by yet another wave of people replying all to point out that the person just did the same thing and mock them… Then the email server would actually crash, then there would be an official message from leadership telling people not to email the corporate directory, and not to reply all of someone did…

      Then inevitably someone would get back from leave a couple of days later and reply all again telling people not to CC then on that type of email…

      It was downright hilarious.

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        It’s one of the perks of the job. At my last company, we’d let those things run their course before cleaning up the mess. It was always a good reminder that the majority of the company is too dumb to be left unsupervised with anything more advanced than a basic calculator.

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    Glad Libreoffice is getting more attention; started using it as soon i went to Linux a couple of months ago. And now, ive been slowly getting my mother on the FOSS bandwagon cause shes getting tired of MAC

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      I recently introduced my dad to libreoffice and he won’t stop talking about how great it is. I’m just like. Wait until you try Linux haha

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        Thats awesome that you got your dad on board with it, and slowly moving him to rabbit hole🤣. My father unfortantly is not tech savy, i would have to introduce it real slow for him or if he is interested, find a distro that operates similar to Windows. I do know he would change though if my mother changes her OS… maybe.

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    Been using Libre Office since I moved to W10 LTSC IoT about two years ago. Libre Office just works.

    As a person who works in IT support I’m not scared of AI… I’m scared of Linux and Libre… Modern day Microsoft don’t know how to build an operating system and Microsoft from 20 years ago have no idea how to stop F#%king Excel and word from crashing for no reason.

    Microsofts sheer incompetence keeps me employed. Adobe’s pure evil business plan also keeps me employed… Adobe Acrobat is one of the worst pieces of garbage software (alongside Excel and word).

    Please keep telling your company how scared you are of Libre! I need my job and I hate Microsoft and Adobe more than you do.

    Edit: Removed a bit that doesn’t work and is just offensive…

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        Hey, I like adobe sauce. No wait, isn’t that adobo sauce? I get so confused in my old age…

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            Yeah fair I don’t want Adobe to exist I’m just happy that they do because they’re so terrible and horrible that I have a job. It’s a joke I make when I’m talking to old Gen X and baby boomers at my work who are confused why Adobe Acrobat has broken again and made their lives difficult. Every day I’m fixing Adobe Acrobat errors.

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    The school I go to demands we use Google Docs (or Office at home) for our work. Boowomp, I’ll still use LibreOffice. Fuck GenAI.

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    It’s wild to me that I only ever heard of LO just two years ago. (When they decided to paywall notepad it was the last straw for me.)

    Feels so so good to ditch Microsoft products.