Experts say an independent Albertan wouldn’t be entitled to Canadian citizenship
Suddenly you have the new Country of Alberta claiming all the Canadian Citizens are immigrants and need to go
I just moved to Calgary. Lived in BC, and ON. Will not be giving up my citizenship no matter what these dumbfucks vote.
Unfortunately, I can’t see Canada stripping Albertans wholesale of Citizenship, especially if we are able to prove “significant ties”, birthright, naturalization, etc.
Save our money — UCP should cancel the referendum or hold an election since they didn’t run on this mandate.
To bad you live in Alberta you loose citizenship.
/s
The vote is worthless and means nothing. The Alberta government and the traitors are just to stupid to understand that. They like to reject rule of law but will still try to use magic words to make use of it. These people are no better than sovcits
This sounds precisely as stupid as it did when the Quebec separatists said it, and everyone I knew, including some of these current chucklefucks, said so.
And of course they’ll want Canadian money too.
They’ll still be talking about unfair equalization payments ffs.
Legally I don’t know that we can revoke citizenship, but the separatists are really giving “have your cake and eat it too” vibes with this.
Like, do you want to leave or not? If Canada is so awful to you, why would you keep it?
It reminds me of a teenager threatening to move out because they have to clean their room.
Few think, about anything. It’s mostly victims of a cohesive ragebaiting program. Russians successfully did it to the American right. Now both are doing it to the Canadian right.
Legally I don’t know that we can revoke citizenship
I don’t think so - the only time citizenship can be revoked is if it was fraudulently acquired, as far as I know.
The article does a pretty good job of outlining the ways Canada could (and should, to be frank) make things difficult for a province that has declared independence, though.
I don’t think so - the only time citizenship can be revoked is if it was fraudulently acquired, as far as I know.
We can revoke citizenship if parliament changes the Citizenship Act as part of a secession negotiation. The supreme court will put constitutional guardrails on it but it’s absolutely possible.
The boring answer is that if a province is going to seceed, it will require a negotiated settlement between the said province and Canada, and such a settlement will absolutely contain agreements around what happens with the citizenships of that province’s residents.
They could also still make Canadians living in Alberta pay income tax.
It’s simple: they trade their passport for an escort to the border.
Get. Out.
It would be them renouncing it to leave.
If they are unhappy in Canada they should leave.
But they want their ground goo and to burn it, too.
How stupid are these chucklefucks?
So stupid, you can probably convince them it’s possible to make a really long stick and poke the moon from earth
Yes.
Exceptionally stupid.
Very.
Separatists are morons……more at 11:00.
Unfortunately
When you don’t know understand how anything works, everything can seem like a good idea.
Except kindness. That’s obviously radical woke communist propaganda.
Alberta treasonists claim independence means holding onto a Canadian passport. We asked legal experts
Citizenship is granted to everyone born in Canada, as well as children born to Canadian parents who are born abroad. There is no real legal mechanism for revocation.
Canadian passports are issued to Canadian citizens.
This seems like a pretty valid legal question?
There is no real legal mechanism for revocation.
There is. Parliament has the right to control how citizenship is obtained and lost, it’s governed by federal law. If Alberta actually passes a referendum and gets it past the clarity act, you can expect that Canada will be looking into updating the Citizenship Act. They can create whatever legal mechanism they want as long as they don’t leave people stateless or apply it in a way that is unjust (according to the supreme court and constitution).
It would be a huge legal battle but it’s something that the federal government will hold over the province in a secession negotiation, and the final settlement between Canada and Alberta would include an agreement about how to handle citizenships.
They can create whatever legal mechanism they want
Which means, by definition, there isn’t one now, which is what I said.
Well, sure, okay, sorry my wording was bad. I wanted to clarify because your comment might sound to readers like it’s not possible. The law doesn’t provide for revocation today, but it easily could do tomorrow, if parliament wills it.
I mean, it’s a valid legal question but it arises after the end of a long chain of “assume that this nonsense bullshit happens first and Alberta separates.” So it’s kind of like asking physics questions about stuff going on in Narnia.
Personally, I am an Albertan who is staunchly opposed to separatism and have been actively working against it. If by some lunatic miracle the minority moron contingent actually manages to “win” and Alberta separates, I would expect to remain a Canadian citizen. I would reject and renounce any stupid “Alberta citizenship” the separatists tried to issue to me. If the Canadian government told me that it was revoking my Canadian citizenship as well then I guess I would conclude that the whole entire country had gone mad and who knows what I’d do then. It’s like asking what I’d do if I discovered that everyone’s secretly lizard people, it’s such an insane scenario that it’s impossible to predict details like that. Maybe I’d head to Hans Island so that I could cross the border to Denmark and seek asylum there.
The Canadian government could offer a choice - accept the Alberta citizenship and revoke Canada’s or stay Canadian and reject Alberta’s
There’s no legal mechanism for that either. This is all just wild “what if magic unicorns showed up and started stabbing everyone” speculation. The only way Canadian citizenship can be revoked is if you committed fraud when getting it in the first place, Canada would have to pass new laws specifically for this purpose.
Technically, the Citizenship Act is a regular act of parliament and could be revised by a similar act of parliament. But not really. There’s a bunch of Charter rights involved - mobility rights, security of person, equality rights - so an act like this would instantly run into numerous constitutional challenges.
There’s also precedent. During the 1995 Quebec referendum, the federal government’s official stance (and the consensus among constitutional lawyers) was that even if Quebec voted to separate, Quebecers would not automatically lose their Canadian citizenship. Because citizenship is an individual right granted by federal law, the separation of a territory doesn’t magically dissolve the individual legal status of the people living there.
Frankly, spending even this much brainpower thinking about this matter is a victory for the separatists. Their whole thing is idiotic lunacy from the ground up and the only thing worth spending energy on is “how can we smack them down even harder” rather than “what if they somehow succeeded?”
Sometimes I like to waste idle brain cycles on silly shit like this
Maybe settle on Seal Island or in one of the other disputed border areas, just to see what happens!
