I’d prefer more USBC. Less display port (I use USBC for that)
Uh, no? I would like to keep the PS2 port, thanks. And the extra ethernet port. And they should add VGA, DVI, and RS232 serial ports.
DisplayPort can daisy-chain.
Doesn’t that limit things like resolution/refresh?
The igpu isn’t going to keep up with that much credibly anyway.
The “what we want” version would require some pretty severe fuckery on the main board, like a secondary chipset or a CPU with even more PCIe lanes, but I don’t disagree with the “want” part!
On that note, you might as well just use hubs, which you can then potentially place more conveniently anyways.
Where’s the ps/2?
You can’t kill the ps/2 port and not be called a genocider.
If my Linux machine freezes I still want to be able to use the keyboard damnit
Even some windows gamers still use it, it’s more resource efficient than other inputs.
But that would mean they would have to have smaller logos!!
Actually:
The on-board video ports are for emergencies when your actual GPU isn’t working. One of each type is plenty.
That 2.5 Gb Ethernet isn’t giving me any actual benefits in practice as no other component in the network supports it anyway. If you need more speed, go all the way to 10 Gb.
No one really has toslink equipment anymore and the optical standard on that connector is shit anyway. You literally get better audio from the analog ports.
Get rid of the fancy special USB ports as well as the legacy low-speed ports. Just give only the normal super-speed ports which always work well without odd hardware quirks or driver issues. And 4 are actually plenty. I connect at least one hub anyway.
Also don’t waste precious PCIe lanes for useless bling like six SATA ports, multiple NICs, or Wireless. Just route the unused PCIe lanes to the PCIe slots. Maybe I want to add an AI accelerator later.I’d like a 10G port on my motherboard. My router supports it which makes the network backbone 10G.
My phone doesn’t fastboot on USB-3.
Add the usb c ports back
Agreed, there should be at least two. So many devices use USB-C now it’s rather silly not to include it given it gets rid of an age old problem as well.
I’ve was recently looking into different ways to get audio from a secondary media PC into an Audio Interface. I decided I wanted to keep the signal digital to use the higher quality DAC in the Audio Interface and decided TOSLINK would be the way to go. It seems like TOSLINK would be a good one size fits all solution for connecting a PC, game consoles, AV receivers, and HDMI splitters because they all seem to still include TOSLINK out ports.
I’m aware of the drawbacks, namely lower bandwidth and jitter. From what I read as long as you’re just doing stereo audio like I plan to, TOSLINK can handle an uncompressed signal no problem. For the jitter, it seems modern devices with TOSLINK inputs have ways of mitigating jitter.
You seem knowledgable on the subject. Is what I wrote above accurate or is there something I’m missing when it comes to TOSLINK audio?
toslink was cutting edge in, oh, 1985. Bit on the limited side for bandwidth now.
Onboard video ports aren’t really emergency ports anymore, they are low-end ports. High end CPUs don’t have iGPUs at all, so the onboard video ports are completely non-operational.
Gibe the ps/2 :(
Just get rid of the wifi on board and give me more USB with those lanes. If people want that (and I am sure, but it seems weird on a board that also has double nics and one is 10G) just let them have a shared lane resource small m.2 (b/g) so they can add a plug in card, which also doesnt rule them out from the next big thing if you really like to be on the newest gen wifi/bluetooth stuff.
I’m pretty sure I have that exact board, I use the WiFi because it’s hard to get an ethernet connection to my computer without using something like powerline ethernet which is slow
4 display outputs for onboard graphics? Why lol. I’ll take the dual ethernet ports.
Make that four. And ten gig, please.
QSFP28 PLS
Quad monitor+tv or 3 monitors and a vr set.
Whats the point if 2 ethernet ports?
Ain’t no integrated graphics pushing all that shit. But at this point, it’s the only thing available. 😂
4 on-board DisplayPorts on my work desktop work just fine. Now, I’m not doing gaming. But I have dual 50" curved ultra-widescreens, a 55" wall monitor, and a 15" compact displaying email.
I’m glad work paid for it.
Onboard graphics these days can certainly push 3-4 monitors, but you ain’t gonna be playing any games on it. At least nothing demanding. Could probably play stuff from the early 2000’s and before. Which, I mean, who needs anything else? Halo CE, my beloved…
That would be fine for office work, not so much for games.
Separate network for NAS or local services. Or
bridgedbonded for more bandwidthBonded is more bandwidth. Bridged is just letting traffic flow between them.
Why does this have so many names?
Some stuff calls it bonded, sometimes it’s teamed, sometimes LAGed or aggregated or bundled or link channelled or ethertrunked or smartgrouped or Multi-link trunked etc. etc.
Thanks, that is what I meant
Bonded ethernet ports are for redundancy and concurrency, which is not quite additional bandwidth. (Just calling that out to help squash any misconceptions of how bonding works. It is technically more bandwidth, but you won’t see total throughput of the two links unless you are transferring multiple files.)
The bonding I guess is fair game… But a bit odd if you only have a 2.5g and 1g ports… You would probably want those symmetrical.
But separate networks? Have you considered VLANs?
Once you’ve bonded what do you use that speed for? There’s no way my hard drive can handle 3.5G write speed.
Network speeds are GBit, not GByte. A single HDD already saturates a 2.5G port
Hmm well then the question becomes how come when I’m downloading something on Steam over my 500Mbps connection it has to pause downloading periodically while it continues writing, as if the download is faster than the hard drive?
See raid0 (but be safe and do raid 1+0). Also maybe it’s a server, so read speed is more important (usually).
Also for bridging
How are you envisioning running a VR headset off of integrated graphics?
Double the websites, duh
And more SATA ports on the mobo.
Where is the PS/2?
In the past, where it belongs
Next you say the audio jack is obsolete?
Am I to trust my OS to decide to pay attention to me? My OS can freeze!
Itdoesnt belong wkenge
I got a big usb hub and stopped caring about this.
Having the ports at the front of my desk where I can plug things in and out more easily is nicer, too.
Obviously some stuff benefits from being plugged in “directly” but most things don’t. In normal use you almost never max out what a single port can do.
My USB hub has rave mode if I pull too much power.
Excuse me? You lost a network port, and a PS/2 port. And we need to fight for more DisplayPort in the world.
What’s the advantage of DP over HDMI? I see the ports more frequently these days but rarely see monitors that take direct DP input… Mostly HDMI.
I keep having to buy DP->HDMI converters
Mostly HDMI
That is because of lobbying. The reality is that HDMI has loyalties and isn’t a free standard like display port is. Display port is also superior technologically: it is compatible with usb-c (thunderbolt), supports higher framerate, and has higher quality (up to 16K).
isn’t a free standard like display port is.
Ah, that’s all you had to say - I’m sold.
I was expecting a lot of technical AV geekery that doesn’t really apply to me but that bit speaks to me. I’m a simpleton. If it displays a terminal, an IDE, and a browser then it’s probably fine for me.
Thanks!
DP is an open standard, HDMI is proprietary and licensed. That’s the biggest difference.
DP is an open standard, HDMI is proprietary and licensed.
That’s all I needed to hear. Count me in.
Thanks for the info!
I feel like computer monitors DP is pretty common, but I also specifically try to get them. DP is pretty rare on TVs. They’re functionally the same technologies, but most TVs won’t include DP.
I had to replace a few recently and only found HDMI but I was specifically looking for the cheapest monitors possible so maybe that had something to do with it. I also needed them ASAP so I was only looking in local stores.
I’ll look closer next time.
