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    Love it how she started looking around when everyone started booing her, like “hey someone tell me what’s going on”, but there was no Claude around to explain it to her.

    That’s what happens when you surrender your critical thinking to AI.

    I bet the delusional cunt spent the rest of her afternoon asking AI what happened and getting consoled by it.

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    That was such a “don’t you have phones” moment.

    Amazing how horribly out of touch these folks are.

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    This is like the groom on his wedding night, going on and on about how fuckable all the Bridesmaids looked, and then being shocked that his bride is pissed off at him.

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    The number of competent experts who are impressed by an LLM wielded in their specified field, is as vanishingly infinitesimal as legitimate and justifiable invocations of the term ‘AI’.

    Those who have expressed the greatest enthusiasm for ‘AI’ are typically the farthest removed from actual, nuanced comprehension.

    It’s a grift economy built on statistically luke-warm, vibe lobotomised corpses.

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      Problem is the targe is not the competent experts, but the managers of the competent experts, who have basically eternally been inherently skeptical of those experts and looking for the flimsiest hope to discard them.

      Many of the best and most important people let themselves be subordinate to some idiots.

      Not pertinent to AI, but just had one of these ‘leaders’ laying out how some project was going to go and why we didn’t even need to bother with any contingencies and that folks would be wasting their time. Every one with a whiff of experience knows these projects don’t go as described 90% of the time, and prepping the usual contingencies is less than an hour as long as you just plan to do it in advance. However, the very expensive partner service says they have it in hand, and despite this same partner boffing the last 6 of these in a row, the idiot still has absolute confidence in them…

      In short, these guys get put in charge and are idiots and folks let them stay “in charge” because they don’t have the will to fight it.

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    She tried to justify AI by citing the success of the Internet? The Internet was not created for the express purpose of replacing workers.

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      Importantly, the dot-com reaction ranged from “wow this is cool and revolutionary” to, at worst, “ehh… I don’t get it, seems pointless?” No one would have booed someone for praising the good old “information superhighway” back in the day, but many might have scoffed.

      For the GenAI, people just actively despise it. It amplifies slop-happy humans to insane degrees, the infrastructure build-out strains local grids and water. Even as a community comes out to say in unison they don’t want a datacenter, somehow community governments green light it anyway, over their objections. And so many people are swearing up and down it’ll get rid of jobs.

      For a new graduate from an Arts and Humanities college especially… There’s like zero reason to cheer and only reason to boo.

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      And in contrast to the avalanche of slop we are currently enduring, the pre-commercialization era of Internet was wild, in a fun way. Yes, we had slop back then too, but it was naïve, gorgeous, hand-crafted slop.

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    I remember watching Bill Clinton speak at UCF. He called the school the military simulation capital of US academics.

    The school’s large population of future debt slaves in the audience (getting worthless degrees in Psychology or Business) didn’t understand.

    I found it elucidating, being a student of Engineering. I studied with fellow students working in Research Park working on computer vision algorithms, teaching missiles how to be more effective at bombing schools and hospitals abroad. They badly needed the money to pay for the college education.

    Few students at UCF were aware of their own school’s involvement in the military industrial complex. Clinton was very aware.

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    Her reaction was shock that they weren’t totally on board with being excited about their primary competition in the job market.

    Who booked this clueless tool?

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      The sorts of folks that get invited and accept these sorts of engagements are frequently self absorbed and out of touch. The hubris needed to think some randos want to hear you speak… Only hope is if the person has some particular reason they would make sense (e.g. if they are an alumni, then at least they might feel like they have a connection).

      The same general phenomenon as when they thought a centerpiece of the Xbox One release should be… DVRing the Price is Right… The same as when blizzard said “Do you guys not have phones?”

      If you are lucky, a speaker will just say nothing vaguely specifically.

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      I don’t even consider LLMs that. I just consider them a massive waster of power and water that inherently degrade everything they touch and have terrible impacts on cognitive and behavioral health.

      I’m not worried that AI is gonna take my job, not in a thousand years, what I’m worried about is that AI is going to BURN THIS PLANET on top of being a constant daily annoyance.

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    Shorter Version Gloria Caulfield Booed at UCF Graduation Speech the comments are on fire.
    youtubeUser - “Watching this was so cathartic you have no idea”

    another User - “I hate when people compare AI to the birth of the internet era and cellphones. Those eras did not have anywhere near the same level of job loss implications and the threat of eradicating as many junior positions as AI does. When boomers make this kind of comparison, it comes off as so disconnected and tone deaf. I hope I’m wrong about AI and that it actually creates massive new industries for entry level workers, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Not in my lifetime at least. We’re about to see mass homogenization of culture and entertainment, significant privacy concerns, mass surveillance, scams, and an absolute gutting of entry level jobs; this is already beginning to happen. I just don’t trust corporations and business owners to not squeeze every last cent out of AI agents and only hire employees as a last resort. That’s their end game and they don’t even hide it at all.”

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      I see not only an era of scamming that will break basic human trust systems but the reliance on it will riddle previously methodical fields like medicine, design and law with a barrage of flaws and falsehoods no one will check until they cause failures.

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      I wish more people would understand that LLMs are “taking” extremely few jobs away. The “chatbots can do a real job” narrative is just there to bump up the stock prices.

      A real AI would incur massive job loss, but the job losses we’re seeing now being blamed on AI are really just the same normal oligarchal greed at work.

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        Right now the ai companies are highly substadising their products. They announced recently that it actually costs them more than it does to pay a human engineer to write the same code.

        That means it’s just a trap. They are trying to get companies to go all in so they will be dependent on them when the engineers are gone and they will raise the price significantly.

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          Which is frankly bizarre. You can definitely run an AI to assist with coding locally for a lot less than hiring a coder for even a month. So if they can’t accomplish that without blowing the budget then there is no hope for them.

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      Not just jobs, but:

      • Scammers that make convincing fakes
      • Knock-offs that get your views before you realize that it’s hollow slop instead of what you were expecting for
      • Flooding the field of creative content with hollow stuff devoid of actual creative intent, mistaking verbosity and detail for quality creative content.
      • Exploiting small communities that either let big tech walk over them in general, or they just have to bribe a few city managers at pretty modest prices.

      I suppose the scammers are about the only arguably common downside between the AI boom and the dot-com boom, but it was at the time less compelling because it was such an ‘alien’ medium that people weren’t trusted, whereas AI is corrupting a familiar medium with even more scam than people are used to.

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    Industrial Revolution: New machines almost instantly made factory owners 1000 to 10000 times wealthier.

    LLMbeciles: New machines can’t count the 'r’s in “strawberry”.

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      New machines can’t count the 'r’s in “strawberry”.

      No, they can! They just first need to have a system prompt instructing them to generate and run a python script to do it.

      And yet, it’s us meatbags being called inefficient.

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      Also, the industrial revolution fucked over a lot of people during the transition period so even if it was an accurate comparison it’s rather callous to celebrate it.

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        This is precisely why I am suspicious of any and all “disruptive” technologies.

        If this technology is so disruptive that it will generate unparalleled wealth for society, then that’s enough wealth that you can afford to keep paying the people about to get displaced and their livelihood destroyed. Don’t want to do this? Fuck your “disruption”.

        (And if it’s like LLMs, it won’t be positively disruptive in any light. It’s just a Ponzi scheme for the highest stakes ever.)

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        it did have a value in the end, but LLM only just fucks over people and pollutes the planet more aggressively.

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      Your echo chamber told you something, and you failed to verify that info. You’re no better than the “LLMbeciles”.

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        The thing is, that broadly these sorts of hiccups happen all the time, but every time one of them escalates to ‘meme’ status, they can institute covering for it in pretty short order.

        When you use them routinely, you see them do the hiccups regularly on random things you weren’t expecting, but if one of those hiccups goes viral, then it stops working.

        I managed to get in barely in time to see the seahorse emoji before the meme became self-defeating.

        The viral instances only work very briefly to illustrate a behavior, as very well known specific examples will get covered. In your case, at one point suddenly all the LLMs were really good at knowing the letters in strawberry, but you ask about other words they would fall over because they only had that specific thing there. By now, I suspect most have implemented a scheme to ensure a more appropriate mechanism handles counting letters in a word, to spare the embarassment.

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          I’m glad you’ve taken a nuanced approach to the issue. The technology is constantly changing and there are lots of genuine reasons to be concerned about AI. This just isn’t one of them anymore.

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            I wouldn’t say the inability to count the 'r’s in strawberry was ever a ‘concern’, but a demonstrator. It demonstrated two things.

            One, a quirk of how tokens work, which innately is a pretty benign limitation in and of itself, perhaps a bit amusing. We don’t really need GenAI help to do nitty gritty stuff with the letters.

            The more troubling facet was the fact it would spit out something like “There is one r in strawberry” instead of “Due to limitations of the technology, that answer is unavailable”. The tendency to spew something that structurally resembles the desired result with apparent confidence and certainty despite no basis for it being true is on display there. This is absolutely still the case broadly. The challenge being humans aren’t used to dealing with being bombarded with that baseless certainty and have a hard time gauging the credibility when facts and fiction are presented with equal apparent confidence. Certainly some business leaders and politicians thrive on the confident but dumb answer, but generally we recognize those as bad scenarios, and LLMs firmly share that trait.

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        Seriously? The strawberry thing is well-documented (and personally tested). But of course the people who make the systems don’t ever change them to fix these humiliating errors.

        This is the best you can do to defend your slop machines? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        “LLM can too count the Rs in Strawberry (now)!” isn’t the flex you seem to think it is, Sparky.

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          There are lots of great reasons to be critical of AI. Point to the power consumption, point towards the safety issues, but avoid using out of date examples as they weaken your stance.

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            Why don’t you point to the things you want to stress and let others point to what they want to make fun of, Sparky?

            Since, however, the point of the strawberry thing is escaping you, let me explain it.

            EARLY automation was a game changer, pretty much from the day it was introduced. The spinning jenny magnified worker productivity 8-fold in its very first model, and expanded rapidly thereafter. The production of yarn dramatically increased while at the same time the price of any individual unit of it plummeted. A chronic shortage of weft yarn that had been limiting the production of the weaving industry at large suddenly vanished. Any company that put a spinning jenny into their production line saw instant, massive benefits.

            EARLY LLMs were amusing idiots recommending glue on pizza and eating rocks. Later LLMs were amusing idiots that couldn’t count the letters in strawberry. Current LLMs are amusing idiots that can’t find the obvious solution to a trivial problem that I literally just tested before posting this:

            At NO POINT have LLMs done anything anywhere near as impactful and beneficial as the Industrial Revolution did. They did, however, match and then exceed all the bad effects of the Industrial Revolution, so hey, at least they accomplished something!

            So, Sparky, though the strawberry thing may have been clumsily fixed, here’s another just-taken snapshot that shows even the latest LLMbeciles are still trivial to fool, hallucinating the dumbest fucking thing that a TODDLER could find the answer to!:

            But hey, now they can count the Rs in “strawberry” finally! Good job! Two big thumbs up!

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              You pointed to something that was out of date. I helped you make your argument stronger and you got butthurt about it.

              Glad I could teach you something, kid.

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              Your first one is actually a pretty good example of something a lot of LLM fanatics won’t believe. They believe in “reasoning” models as actually reasoning, and are not receptive to the reality that while it looks like reasoning, and even obviously the expenditure of more tokens is resulting in better final results, it isn’t “reasoning”.

              It declares step 3 to be ‘botched’ and then does the exact same step 3 and declares it good, and from an actual reasoning perspective it makes no sense, as it would have been step 4 that was about to be a mistake.

              So it arrives at the correct sequence, but it clearly didn’t get through by “logic-ing” it, it just modeled that a mistake should be acknowledged around step three, because that’s when folks generally flub it, and presented the rationale that is always provided to explain. It doesn’t make actual sense, but it has the effect of the correct answer being reached, but not through actual abstract reasoning.

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          They’re saying degrees are useless. Not learning. They’re two different things.

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            Except they are categorically not useless? I’d still be stuck in fuckstick nowhere if they were. So would many others. Thats anecdotal and doesn’t count, though.

            If someone is able to pass enough classes to get a degree without learning anything thats a them problem.

            Now, if one wants to call degrees a poor value proposition?

            Also wrong. Just because the US hasn’t had a coherent fiscal policy since before Reagan and has allowed tuition to skyrocket while milking the students for all they’re worth still doesn’t make the degree useless.

            Learning is not useless. If someone doesn’t learn anything in 4 years and accepts that degree? They’re at fault.

            If the argument is that degrees are useless because they don’t guarantee employment you can find my response at the top of this comment chain.

            WHY DO I HAVE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE HIGHER LEARNING IS AN ADMIRABLE PURSUIT REGARDLESS OF THE JOB PROSPECTS

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          Which is why I studied Philosophy. Sure, a degree like that doesn’t tie in to a 150k/yr job at daddy’s company quite like a degree business management might (no shade), but I feel like the skills it gave me are suited to just about everything I do. I’ve spent time in tech, time in the entertainment industry, and time in retail. If anyone is interested in philosophy, I encourage you to pursue it. The way I see it, you have to make your own way in the world anyway you might as well equip yourself with reading, writing, and reasoning skills by pondering age old, potentially unanswerable questions and worry about specializing later.

          Just don’t Socratease your coworkers. HR might not like that!

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          Someone needs to tell universities this. And students, for that matter.