Any game involving Africans has to be woke, according to them and the devs have been fighting a barrage of trolling and obvious racism since the game was put up on steam.
The intense racism on steam is seriously fucked up. And it’s ever-present.
The game does look fun though. It kinda reminds me of that old 2D Mirror’s Edge game for old iPhones but a lot better.
Vector?
Plenty of racism in those forums playing out the “black on black” crime trope except it’s African on African crime, their fault for the slave trade, etc.
Steam needs to change discussion threads to default to owners only
This game looks awesome!
I should not have clicked on Discussions.
It’s really gotten to the point where there’s no dogwhistly way to say what they’re saying. They’re just being blatant psychotic racists.
Fun idea for game!
Just for those wondering, it seems a bit similar to Prince Of Persia the Lost Crown which I loved. I wish listed it.
getting the demo and wishlisting
Ah yes, the “My ancestors rightfully stole this land and your existence is oppression, kefir!” crowd. We meet again.
The Steam forums are the most repugnant and racist-filled psychotic right-wing shitholes I’ve ever encountered (and I once went to the Stormfront forums). Genuinely, Steam forums exhibit the most pure and concentrated anti-woke, “every single thought in my head was placed there by Ben Shapiro”, “blacks are the real racists”, x-phobic bigoted brain cancer on earth. I block them where I find them, report the ones that seem actionable, but it’s like trying to hold off a tidal wave with a tennis racket.
I block any of these idiots I see on steam and my block lost is over 2000 now…
I think it depends on the game creators presence in the forums. I’ve been in some good steam forums that the game creators actually moderate and ban people/delete posts like the stuff on this games forum.
Nowadays the main thought leader of right wing weirdos are Assmongold, they’ve left old Benny boy in the dust because he’s too nerdy for their liking.
Not to mention, Jewish.
I stopped using them a long time ago. Since they don’t seem interested in moderating their own forums in the slightest, Valve should really shut them all down. The Steam forums are such cesspits of hate speech, bigotry, and toxicity that I actually feel dirty every time I buy a game on Steam. That is not okay.
The Steam forums are the most repugnant and racist-filled psychotic right-wing shitholes I’ve ever encountered
“Surely this person is sheltered”
(and I once went to the Stormfront forums)
buddy idk what you’re doing on steam but the worst I get are youtube tier, which can sometimes be Stormfront tier but not higher than that on average.
You don’t understand “gatekeepers”, who want to “go back to the good old days when games were a niche, made for gamers, and no corporate bullshit” (translation: “I want to turn gaming spaces a frat club for my kind”).
The game is about stealing African artifacts from the Western museums, set in the future. Of course, racists hate it and are going to call it ‘woke’. I am personally very intrigued by the concept.
So, it’s ok when Indiana Jones does it but not the other way around.
It’s not about consistency. It’s about “I want therefore it is my divine right and other people aren’t valid”
not like these ppl even go to museums
Obviously, they’d be in danger of learning something.
I had no idea this game existed, and your description just piqued my interest, so it seems like they may be Streisanding this shit lol
It is precisely why I had to add the description because when I checked out the game upon reading this original post, I loved the idea of the game.
How’s the gameplay? Anyone know if it’s good?
There’s a free demo you can try
Gonna try and play this when I get home, hopefully it runs on Steam Deck.
I’ve wishlisted and the demo downloaded to my steam deck.
Right? I want to do some reverse Indiana Jones liberating of artworks.
“It doesn’t belong in a museum!”
That’s funny as hell and now I’m buying it to trigger the snowflakes.
Is the British Museum the final boss?
It better be. They
stolesaved so many artifacts!Judging by the Benin Ivory mask in the artwork, it definitely looks like the british museum is involved somehow.
They did save quite a few artifacts, but there are plenty more that they just stole with no good reason. Like the Parthenon reliefs(?) Greece has been largely stable since it’s independence was won from the Ottoman empire WW2 not withstanding, or any Scottish artifacts the English sully with their hands, or quite a few Egyptian artifacts. Though I do think artifacts should be split between the home country and the excavation teem be it University or country specific or whatever.
Black people: *exist*
Racists: NOOOO YOU CAN’T DO THAT REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!1!1!1!!!
I feel really bad for the devs. Just trying to make a game and they get bombarded with harassment, racist bait, trolling, etc.
Is there anything to be done about this?
Edit: I reported a few threads for being obvious harassment
They could try not being black and from Africa
(Hopefully no /s needed but you can never be too sure these days)
Ngl I wouldn’t have needed a /s if we were in the early 2010s, but nowadays I’m not sure if someone is joking or actually serious.
We should all be reporting these racist fucks and their reviews too.
Steam reviews and community are both absolute cesspits all flooded with any kind of ism or ist because capital G Gamers and to bait for awards.
Same, reported for harassment on a few of the blatantly racist jerks.
Yeah, reading Steam discussions ruined my day. Just full of racism under the vale of wokeness… Those fuckin’ “Is this game woke?” threads we see everywhere these days might as well be “Does this game have any non-white male characters?”
They are worst that the stupid asses calling for characters to have a gender option in games with a story. I mean, anyone here didn’t enjoy Die Hard because they could not relate to John’s gender or sexuality during all those fun action scenes?
Now, on a totally unrelated topic:
Looking to buy this game, but I wanna know before giving them any money; do the devs prefer a penis or clit in their mouth?
Fuck it. Moderator action.
Before the poster makes any other posts, they must answer the prompt: “Apologies! We’ve been dealing with an influx of hate speech and bigotry, so to clarify your concerns, could you please provide the intended meaning of the word “Woke” in this post?”
Good simple solution, I love it! Auto moderation would indeed out them easily.
It is so fucking stupid, because games would be so insanely boring if every character interaction was between straight, white, cis-het men, and no female character could ever pass the Bechdal Test.
Just like with movies and TV shows, I enjoy a variety of games that cover the entirety of the human experience. Why the fuck would I want to limit that??
yea but these gamers aren’t thinking about you, or about the quality of art
because this is what they want, they want the ethnostate in fiction just like they want it irl. they are white supremacists first and foremost
It’s hilarious! In the “is the game woke” thread, someone literally wrote:
To make analogy. In your world/culture its okay for China to steal all our furniture, devices in all western homes if the product is “made in China”. It once belonged to China and could have been stolen…
Holy shit! That might be the dumbest arguement I’ve ever heard. I might have heard worse, but nothing is coming to mind.
“Does this game have any non-white or non-male characters?”
FTFY
Link to the store page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3255890/Relooted/
Looks genuinely fun but omfg 2d platformer with 1060 and 12gb ram as low specs? Five years from now I wouldn’t be able to play a modern three-in-a-row browser game it seems.
My single 996 MEGAhertz processor, 512mb ram, 128mb vram setup could just about run Battlefield 2, Counter Strike Source, and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. These games often had higher minimum requirements but I managed.
Balatro, a modern card game, starts off with minimum requirements of two 3 GIGAhertz cores and a gigabyte of ram.
Comparing AAA Valve with an indie dev isn’t fair but it’s objectively true that relatively simple concepts now require substantially more resources. That’s like several Battlefield 1942 instances to 1 Balatro instance.
2D in gameplay, but it’s a 3D game. Also, the 1060 is almost 10 years old. But most importantly, it’s still a WIP. Optimisation for lower end PCs will probably happen last.
But most importantly, it’s still a WIP.
To make it clear, I’m not barking at that dev, but at the industry that gets pushed further and further in reqs without any visible upsides.
Optimisation for lower end PCs will probably happen last.
10xx is still not a lower-end PC. Most modern PCs in the world don’t have discrete graphics card and instead use integrated Intel/AMD solutions. Buying a PC or a laptop with a discrete one is 30% addition to an already bloated price tag, so unless you know you need one you can skip it. And, unsurprisingly so, 10xx show themselves still capable, although lacking raytracing stuff.
2D in gameplay, but it’s a 3D game
No, it isn’t. The gameplay is tied to two dimensions and it lets devs leave out everything but a thin line of scenery that serves the 2d perspective.
1060 is almost 10 years old
And Sunset Overdrive is 11 yo, yep, and it’s a full 3d game with similar gfxs where you can actually navigate these three dimensions hopping through it’s map. Most of the game happens from a zoomed out pov, so there’s probably even less need for computational power and caching if they downsized textures for these scenes acorrdingly.
There is still no reason to exceed these demands, unless you go all into raytracing, VR or 4k high fps range. The most probable blunders are UE5 and lack of optimization. For a game that doesn’t call itself as a groundbreaking AAA expirience, these reqs feel misplaced.
10xx is still not a lower-end PC
1060 is certainly low end, which is the card you mentioned. 1080 (ti) might still be considered higher end, but the 1060 has been called low end years ago.
No, it isn’t. The gameplay is tied to two dimensions and it lets devs leave out everything but a thin line of scenery that serves the 2d perspective.
What? That doesn’t make the models of the character and scenery any less 3D. Are we looking at the same game?
And Sunset Overdrive is 11 yo, yep, and it’s a full 3d game with similar gfxs where you can actually navigate these three dimensions hopping through it’s map.
I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Yes, an 11 year old game performs fine on 10 year old hardware. What does this have to do with an unreleased, unoptimised, modern game?
1060 is certainly low end, which is the card you mentioned. 1080 (ti) might still be considered higher end, but the 1060 has been called low end years ago.
Nvidia had a lot of cards this generation, and 1060 in 6gb variant is not as bad as you think. It’s two generations behind, because 20xx were sometimes even worse, and 50xx-40xx changes weren’t that significant as 10xx-30xx were. 10xxs won’t produce top gfxs in the recent games, but most time it’s not them being outdated, but devs fucking it up. And you casually ignored that most PCs have something like an Intel Integrates 13100 instead that barely rebders Dota.
What? That doesn’t make the models of the character and scenery any less 3D. Are we looking at the same game?
I suggest you to watch one video on original Resident Evil and how it was designed. Devs managed to do hd gfxs because they could prerender some bits, and others only existed in a POV of the player. With most of the gameplay focused on one side-scrolling perspectieve, devs limited things they need to render (like the world behind you doesn’t exist), and could’ve cut the resources required. I don’t know if they did so, but 12gb ram and 1060 are still ubreasonable.
don’t get what you’re trying to say. Yes, an 11 year old game performs fine on 10 year old hardware. What does this have to do with an unreleased, unoptimised, modern game?
Skipping over beta condition this game is in, I want this game to provide anything of value for resources consumed. I proposed an old game that does all of that in 3d, and I’m wondering why a 2d game can’t do the same.
Again, it’s not a 2D game. The gameplay moves in 2D, but it’s rendered in 3D. Technically we call this 2.5D.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D
So the whole premise you’re basing this on is false. And don’t compare a 30y old PS1 game to modern gaming lol. I get you’re nostalgic but the industry has changed.
Much more relevant are the last two numbers in nvidia classification. A 2060 is miles behind a 1080. The first 2 numbers just represent the generation, not how “strong” it is. 1060 was always an entry level gpu, and is outclassed by even modern integrated graphics. Not to say hardware requirements aren’t insane recently, but that’s partly due to un-optimized engine requirements that take an insane amount of work to tune, which just isn’t realistic for an indie/less experienced team. As well as wild timeline expectations from investors/publishers to release products way before they’re ready so they can make money, leaving little time to polish.
Source: game developer in AA listening to how shit I am for not making game go faster.
Much more relevant are the last two numbers in nvidia classification. A 2060 is miles behind a 1080. The first 2 numbers just represent the generation, not how “strong” it is.
I know what these numbers are. I thought it’s obvious from my comments.
1060 was always an entry level gpu, and is outclassed by even modern integrated graphics.
1050 was an entry level garbage of this generation, going as low as 3GB of VRAM, while 1060 got 4-6GBs. The latter is not in the best position now, after 3060 dropped, and affordable VRAM got into 10GB+ territory, but it’s still capable of enduring tasks on it’s budget. 4060 and 5060 didn’t brought as much to the table as 10xx-30xx jump did after failed 20xx imho.
Since new vcards are still trapped in an overprice bubble, used 1060s are still nice, especially coupled together. And I doubt that this discrete card is worse than integrated graphics of, say, 13gen i5 Intel, that is, by defenition, uses a part of availiable RAM rather than having it’s own soldered-in VRAM of the next gen, and also steals computational power from the CPU, that is rarely a bottleneck but cpu-heavy tasks still happen. In games, it’s titles like Vermintide 2 that exhaust mid-range machines by calculating horde logic.
Source: I do live VJing and occasional v-render on client’s hardware, ranging from sexy 5080 speeds to vcardless trash setups, and just a couple of days ago I was forced to use a 730 vcard that could hardly handle OBS and projecting software at the same time.