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Deserved. Fuck Adobe!
Why dont they get bullied on X as well?
Consider X’s current audience and you’ll have your answer
I was so happy to help in ensuring it ocurred
What would be a good alternative to Adobe After Effects ? Something that works in the same way.
I only used kdenlive an open source Video editor, I do not know how similar it is to AE though. With kdenlive I can …
- cut and arange video snippets in a timeline
- apply effects like transform/lens (many more) to video
- I can apply simple audio effects with the pitch effect, or generate white noise. Slow down Video
- they have AI-effects and audio editing in their roadmap …
Sounds similar to AE from what I read on its wiki entry
Thanks for sharing, This might be good enough in the future looking at the roadmap.
That is a video editor much like Adobe Premier or Final Cut Pro, so would not be a replacement for AE. After Effects is essentially Photoshop but with motion and animation. It’s mostly for VFX and Motion Graphics. Not video editing or audio.
I use Blender for that, too. Anything I don’t do in Blender I probably do in emacs…
I use Blender for video editing, and as long as I never use another video editing package, I am sure to remain perfectly happy with Blender.
We should all be bullying companies more… Less bullying people and more bullying companies and orgs!!
Yes people make up a company blah blah blah… Don’t care. Just don’t bully the people working there.
And billionaires, especially the Nazis variety.
I quite enjoyed Elon getting bullied over POE2 stream.
Oh Nazis deserve to just be punched (nonstop).
You heard the time Elon was told to go back to Africa. That was hilarious.
An old meme once said:
The only good nazi…
You heard the time Elon was told to go back to Africa.
Yessir
So, cyberbullying and toxic gamer communities are very much a thing and definitely a problem, but I have to admit, that story really did make day… I laughed for a while, I shared it with my neighbors, it’s still fucking funny!
You know, the thing is… the whole mess was entirely Elon’s fault. If he just wanted an escape from his stressful life, he could totally just play the game and it would work out fine for him. But because he felt the narcissistic need to live stream it (because he apparently desperately needs others to tell him how awesome he is), he got his stupid face kicked into the mud. And that’s really on him…
There’s definitely a power dynamic aspect to bullying. Bullying down? Or bullying another shmoe? Not great. Bullying a rich powerful asshole? Different story.
Followed by his Starlink connection dropping out.
Bullying a bully is not bullying.
huh I definitely didn’t delete this
Every company I’ve ever worked for deserves to be bullied.
Honestly that’s letting the bastards running those companies get off light
The leadership (is supposed to) represent the people, the people do not represent the leadership. Israelis do not represent the Israeli government. Employees of a Meta subsidiary do not represent Meta, Facebook, or Zuckerberg. Don’t attack McDonald’s employees because the burger is more expensive, YouTube employees because the content preys on children or residents/soldiers of a country because the government decides to mobilise its army against another community. Employees are just victims of capitalism, just working there because they must, irrespective of politics.
Well yeah I said leave the people working there alone and target the corp or org. And my reasons are what you just outlined in great detail. They are victims of capitalism.
Just don’t bully the people working there.
What if they’re C-suite
Key word is “working” people. C-Suite don’t work, just tell others to work.
They aren’t people, they are demons. So my rule still stands 🤣
Who do you think should be next?
Boycott all shitty companies… We make a list and we keep adding shitty companies to the list and present a list of alternatives.
I am really staring to detest most of the biggies. Amazon. Nestle, google. I’m not even American and I think the health companies need hounding.
I’ve spent a good portion of the past 5 years detangling my life from them. The unfortunate hard one I face is amazon.
All companies need hounding in this hypercapitalist situation we have found ourselves into.
Amazon has been the easiest to get rid of for me. I just stopped buying shit. I’d rather do without than continue supporting this. My Alexa’s got dumped. I just need to replace my firestick and I am done.
Its the subscriptions, it makes my monthly stuff easier to manage. Other grocery stores have merged anyway so it’s kinda watching 2 monsters fight, either way we are fucked lol. Alexa I get that. The firestick is decent hardware for the price you can try side loading Kodi and using that to bypass all their amazon BS. That way you get their subsidized hardware and avoid their ads.
Do you think we need a crusade group? I noticed a story about a tent group making money out of the camps earlier. Maybe we can all torment them. Happy to give a portion of my day bullying corps.
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
It was a good product but expensive
Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.
Fuck adobe.
GIMP 3 FTW
I use Affinity Suite for work. Paid for it once, have it forever. Free updates until new editions, which are discounted if you own an older edition. Buy it for one platform (Windows), that’s a license for that edition of any other platform too. AND they regularly go on special, often to 50% off.
It doesn’t have AI content generation, but it does a few things Adobe doesn’t - like being able to use Photo and Designer from INSIDE Publisher, seamless like its a single program!
Affinity Photo (Photoshop), Designer (Illustrator), and Publisher (InDesign). Then Krita for raster illustration. That’s all I need as a professional
I have some artist friends who saw the writing on the wall after Adobe told Apple to fuck off with the iPad and Affinity said hold my beer. One owns her own publishing company and as of a few years ago all new projects were Adobe-free workflows. She still has Adobe but will only use it for older shit that might still need something later. Going forward, she (and therefore her entire operation) are fucking done with Adobe. Another friend learned both so he could adapt to whatever the market has in store for him and since the market sucks for artists he’s going freelance too and has said absolutely no to Adobe.
Adobe is officially legacy software. Vendor lock in won’t save it as the creatives don’t need industry titans to survive.
Moat of the teams I see hiring designers are still using Adobe, and printshops take .ai files. But most of the solo designers I know use Affinity, and I’ve heard of one (albeit small) team that has swapped to Affinity for their whole team.
Affinity was just bought by Canva so idk how it might evolve over time, or if v3 will make compromises I don’t agree with. But I got v1 during Covid, loved it, converted to v2 as soon as it was available, still love it. Using all of them on the same file in the same window feels amazing.
Another downside is that designers rarely make asset packs for Affinity. But I’m pretty sure Affinity is able to import brush pack formats from one of the other big names, just not sure which (likely Adboe’s .abr)
I don’t like painting in Photo though, but that might be because I’m so used to Krita, which is designed for illustration in the first place. (They’re great, I might donate to them again actually)
And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.
I miss macromedia flash so bad, actionscript for life
Good I hated working in actionscript so much.
I once built a website preloader that was so large that I made a pre-preloader for it. Good times indeed.
A flash preloader was my first real tech job! As I recall, they stiffed my last paycheck and went under later.
But it was incredibly fun and I made connections that steered my career to a new direction for the next decade.
Awesome, what’s keeping you busy these days? (If this is an account where it’s OK to share that on)
<insert outdated xzibit meme here> Agreed, the wildest of wests.
Fireworks for me. I miss that whole suite though.
Now there’s a name I haven’t seen in a while and that makes me a little bit sad.
RIP Fireworks…
Fireworks had so much potential as a web design app and they threw it away.
Illustrator and InDesign were too focused on print media and Photoshop could barely comprehend anything unless it was rasterized.
That’s what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then… destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.
And they bought Cool Edit and destroyed it.
And they bought Paintshop pro and destroyed it
Corel bought Paint Shop Pro and destroyed it, not Adobe, though it was an Adobe-style move to be sure.
I think he is old, like me and means aldus photostyler. Which was light years ahead of adobe in background separation.
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That was part of the macromedia suite wasn’t it?
Were they talking about Dreamweaver or Flash?
Freehand
The one i never used.
I made my personal homepage with Dreamweaver and got my first job with it.
Also the first job: after 3 days of us using Dreamweaver to finalize the website, the PM rushes in and forbids Dreamweaver use, because it was garbling the parts with java.
I never even worked with HTML before, “raw” in a text editor lol.
I’m thankful for this first experience. It made me buckle up and catch up in the hotel, at night.
That was around 1997…
Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.
GIMP 3, Krita, Darktable, Inkscape, Kdenlive
Blender
The people editing their images in Blender are the same people who edit their videos in Blender lol.
You say that like it’s a bad thing lol
Has it gotten better with editing? I tried a couple of years ago and just couldn’t. It’s amazing for the 3d software. If they could make it easier to measure things, I’d use it for CAD too.
FreeCAD for CAD as others mentioned.
Sadly FreeCAD is absolutely shit compared to what commercial CAD products offer - and sadly even 1.0 didn’t change their problems.
Depends on your needs. I probably wouldn’t consider it good enough yet for commercial but the improvements on 1.0 take care of pretty much all of my needs. The “free” licenses for Fusion360 and OnShape are garbage and feel like nothing more than attempts to get hobbyists and small businesses locked in before changing terms. Plus, last I checked, they pull the same kinda data vacuum bullshit that social media companies did in their terms - “free” license holders should expect any and all of their work to be resold by the companies for profit.
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It doesn’t do it natively, but it does have plugins for CAD features
Maybe I’m doing too much engineering - I found Open SCAD to be way easier than Blender for making stuff, and that’s saying something because Open SCAD is quite a pain.
I can see why for engineering, it allows you to be super precise. I’m not sure the people who developed the CAD side of Blender have ever used it for anything precise or to build details and drawings of any kind. They just seem clueless, there is no other way to put it. AutoSketch used to be so great, maybe the paid version is now. That was different than AutoCAD and Revit, but I loved it.
I’ve always seen Blender as a 3D art tool but never as a precise 3D engineering tool. Didn’t even know Blender had CAD features
I hate the syntax in OpenSCAD. It LOOKS like something object-oriented but it is procedural, causing oh so many footguns, if one expects it to act like OOP.
I’m a mostly procedural thinker, even though I program in OOP all day long. OpenSCAD works a lot like the rest of my code: write it, try it, look at the results, curse, revise it, try it, look at the results, curse differently… you get there eventually. I do highly suggest not coding a masterpiece in OpenSCAD without visualizing the components first.
I believe i recall there being an update specifically to the video editor within the past year or two, but don’t quote me on that. They have done updates to post processing, the timeline functionality, grease pencil, and i believe some other things that would apply to video editing, so i imagine it would be easier to work with. There are cad and measuring add-ons as well, i believe some free within blender itself.
I bought Davinci, so I’m happy with that, but I’ll still check out the Blender version. I can’t really complain about it, it does so much and is free.
As far as CAD goes, they aren’t really usable to be fast in CAD. It’s super cumbersome. You should be able to move things 1" to the right or left, put things at certain heights and move around the space in an easy way. I haven’t found anything that can do that for imperial. Also, the tools for making dimensions is really bad and I don’t think there’s a way to make a blueprint unless you come up with something yourself. That being said, it’s free and it’s not their focus. They concentrate on the 3D portions.
I’ve started using FreeCAD for CAD work, I’ve used Fusion 360 for 5 years before trying FreeCAD (again, I tried it a few years ago) and it works pretty good.
It’s different and it’s taking some getting used to but it’s working out quite nicely so far.
If the units are set to inches for length. You can just type G (grab), X (or Y or Z), and 1 to move an inch in any direction. I think it used to be worse.
FreeCAD (for less-organic modeling)
Photopea, Shotcut
I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn’t exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.
Adobe isn’t selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.
GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven’t been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.
Krita is awesome with a drawing pad
And I’m not like even good at doing anything
Yeah, I got my son a draw-on monitor explicitly for use with Krita. It’s a normal PC too, but it makes Krita much easier to use well.
I use GIMP, but you can’t compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.
The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it’s a paid product.
I compare today’s GIMP to the Photoshop I used in the 1990s, and they’re not very different at all.
whatever happened to photopea
Photopea represent
Affinity Photo for me!
I’d prefer FOSS but…GIMP ain’t it.
Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it’s also pretty good especially the clone GUI.
Bought out by Canva, I also currently love it, but I don’t expect that to last.
FUCK.
I moved to Affinity early this year, and it has been amazing!! I was expecting a long adjustment period after decades with Photoshop, but it’s so similar that I picked it up super quick!
I have been using it for the past 5+ years. It is good enough, and its perpetual license.
Another vote for Affinity. Excellent Adobe alternatives 1-time reasonable price. Such a breath of fresh air after so many subs.
Just an FYI that you might want to get some practice in with some Affinity alternatives, because they’ve been purchased by Canva, and so enshittification might set in any time.
It may enshittify, but since it’s a one time purchase and not a subscription, you can keep using your version.
Oh that’s really good.
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days.
So much of Krita is great and then there is the text tool which is still a heap of trash.
New update coming for that soon!
New update coming for that soon!
I’m fully aware of the feature that has been promised for years and is supposed to land in 5.3. I’m still using Krita, just not solely.
I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn’t stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn’t exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.
I feel like I should have switched to GIMP a decade ago.
The best time to switch was 10 years ago. The second best time to switch is right now.
Ok, so I’ve tried gimp in the past, but had a hard time with it. Honestly, my Photoshop skills are mostly self taught (and not all that impressive), but that’s the interface I know. How similar to Photoshop can one make the interface in gimp these days? Because that’s probably my biggest hurdle.
Gimp is a little steeper learning curve but if you already know photoshop it’s not that bad.
The tricky thing is knowing what to do when you get stuck. Luckily they wrote a manual that assumes you’re only reading the manual because you got stuck and you’re so frustrated you’re actually reading the manual.
Gimp3 just launched and it’s really nice.
And free.
Check out PhotoGIMP
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
So the real question is whether Photoshop might ever have become successful, if Adobe hadn’t bought it.
It sure is.
Bluesky has a lot of artists. Posting this video here: https://youtu.be/I4mdMMu-3fc
Gimp sucks. Krita is way better.
They have different purposes.
Krita is more focused on painting but it has most of the same features as gimp.
Is it possible to learn such sorcery ?
im still rockin a cs6 version. works fine on w11ltsc. fuck the cloud and fuck ai.
I remember reading a story a while back about someone who owned a legit CS version with a proper serial and activation.
They had to change computer, and in doing so had to reactivate Photoshop, but it wasn’t working. They contacted Adobe support and explained the situation but support basically told him nope, not a chance, we aren’t helping you. You need to subscribe to new Photoshop.
So Adobe accepted that yes, he bought a perpetual licence for Photoshop and that yes, the reason it isn’t working is the online activation, but they still refused to help.
Scumbags.
yupp, its not possible anymore. you have to crack your your own bought photoshop.
I have to open PDFs all day long at work to read our schematics. No I don’t want an “AI assistant” or an “AI summary” on drawings of electrical wiring. And I need to close multiple menus to get rid of them, and the only option is “disable for this session”, no way to permanently turn them off
i like how i didn’t even know they were on bsky because they’re already added to the The Great AI/NFT/CRYPTO Cull blocklist.
great, cant view it because it wants me to log in…
It’s not “it” that wants you to log in, the devs created the site to be entirely public. but users demanded an option to hide their profiles from logged out users. Any hidden posts are because the user explicitly set the flag in their own settings
The api endpoints are still public btw. Third party clients can see these profiles just fine :| not a fan of that decision tbh
if that is the case the site should really do communicate that better. on another post I have seen a warning in the post body that the user’s setting makes it hidden. I understand that. but here? I’m just greated with a login wall exactly like on twitter or facebook, with no communication whatsoever, other than “log in or pound sand”
heh, not a local problem, even archive.org captured it: https://web.archive.org/web/20250411034219/https://bsky.app/profile/rayday.bsky.social/lists/3jxwojift2y2n
fuck you, bluesky! knew all the time you are not a little bit better than twitter & co
Greatjob Bluesky, One less Adobe monopoly
These days, bullying is used for good.
They started it by pretending to want to connect with artists.
by charging them alot for using thier services.
A top reply was posted on another lemmy community:
https://lemmy.world/post/27989752
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover. I’m alright if a for profit websites hides “their” content behind a login wall, it’s their choice, but how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images, they just link to the original tweets or whatever they called on bluesky.
Not you. take CURSE OF RA [7 lines of incromprehensible egyptian hyroglyphs]
Best reply to a greeting by Adobe
That’s weird. The bluesky links in the article work fine for me, and I don’t have a bluesky account.
Ahh hang on, this one doesn’t work but all the rest do
https://bsky.app/profile/megzavala.bsky.social/post/3lmdz2tu6xk2x
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Why would a user choose to enable that? Would that make it less likely to be scraped by a bot?
Probably the same person who ends all of their comments on Lemmy with that stupid “anti-AI commercial license” or whatever bullshit.
It’s like the polar opposite of “Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.”
bsky started with nine of its posts. wing shown publicly so when they flopped the switch (i think they also opened registration without invites) some people who had gotten used to their post being hidden from the rest of the net felt exposed and the devs added this settings.
while i do not think its a great setting i kinda get it. especially given that there are not (yet) private accounts so that’s the best they have
TBH it’s better journalism to include the link, but they could do both.
Source can be destroyed. An alternative screenshoot backup/proof is good measure. Especially in web its better to not depend on an outside server.
Like if they close (or some billionaire buy them and requires an account for everything), your content becomes worthless.
Bleets?
Skeets
Lol, the article says skeet, but I like yours better.
The Sheeples bleat on BlueSky?
adobe will charge you $20 a month to read their skeets then charge a $100 cancellation fee if you want to stop following them.
what are skeets
Slang term for ejaculating, usually with some projectile distance implied. Very popular term in the mid-2000’s, see Get Low by Lil Jon.
Skeet skeet motha fucka
Skeets ahead or behind?
Tweets, but BSky. It’s gross on purpose because the devs didn’t want it to catch on and they Streisand’d. They’ve since embraced it lmao.
Apparently tweets, but on bluesky
The CEO asked people not to make skeets catch on, so of course that’s the word for them.
My skeets always catch on.
I’m guessing blue sky version of tweets
That’s correct. It’s stupid so I just say tweets.
It’s $20 for the readers bundle, $1289 per year if you want to see photos and comment.
#adobyephotoslop
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