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      CW: description of racist beliefs, description of death/the dead, amateur psychoanalysis/rectally sourced conjecture

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      you start out thinking that they are “one of the good ones” and have your little hallmark “racism is over” montage building a treehouse, proving that America can civilize even the most barbaric savage (with your help!), then you see an AI generated picture of a well-done infant, have an emotional breakdown because you are not terminally online/desensitized enough to corpses to tell its fake, and feel like you have been betrayed and need to do something to fix your mistake, for the memory of holocaust victims and idealized settler families “just like yours” (and dontcha know hamas ALL MUSLIMS just beheads babies for no reason!)

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    I will raise my children as Maoists. Nazis, landlords, colonizers, cops, and bankers will be seen as pure wickedness and savagery. They will stand shoulder to shoulder with Beezelbub and Bael. The monster under their bed will be a creatire who threatens to take away their home, and the scariest part is that it has a man’s face

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        going from building a treehouse to this is such an insane shift though. building a treehouse is a lot of effort if you were just hiding it

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          It can be a combination of mental illness manifestation and racism coming to full view.

          There are many stories of seemingly normal and rational people becoming obsessed and paranoid and terrified of everything after 9/11.

          There are also stories about seemingly normal and rational people who got cooped up at home due to unemployment or the pandemic and got caught in QAnon and every time they blink they see literal babies on spikes.

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          I know people this age who are becoming more and more paranoid and constantly talking about child molesters like all the time, like at random moments

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      The Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis singing Imagine from the same backdrop as their Danny Masterson apology video (I believe shot next to a wooden wall near their pool) was extremely prescient too.

      MM’s ex wife’s new partner being a Reddit lib that falls for superhero worship and inadvertently sides with fascism despite thinking he’s one of the good guys

      The Supe that SA’d someone getting cancelled then slowly turning to religion then being rehabilitated and overall received basically no punishment

      Starlight wanting to change the fascist system from the inside and completely and utterly failing

      My god the CIA lady admitting they were selling crack to black communities to fund their operations

      What a good show

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    Fox News even tried to defend itself in court many years ago by calling itself “entertainment” instead of “news.”

    Think of that whenever someone tells you their entertainment has no effect on them because it’s just entertainment. The lines between entertainment and propaganda (and advertising for that matter) are very blurry and may as well cease to exist at times.

    EDIT: I thought that case was decided in Fox News’ favor, but in case I heard incorrectly, edited that out.

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    Yeah but have you ever considerd that “pEoPlE cHoOsE tO bElIeVe In PrOpAgAnDa!!! I AM BIG BRAINED LEFTIST YOU MUST AGREE WITH ME OR ELSE YOU ARE REACTIONARY UWUWUWUWU!!!”

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        That post took the thesis of Masses, Elites, and Rebels and warped it to the point it became dumb. It’d be like reading Oppose Book Worship and coming to the conclusion that you should never read theory.

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          Some people are just better than others and they got theirs when they successfully reject propaganda (totally rejected 100% btw, their entertainment has no effect on them, for real, never ever) and it’s every individual’s burden from birth to identify and reject propaganda in the same way or else nothing could have been done otherwise.

          If they don’t, well, they should have thought about that before becoming susceptible to propaganda!

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              I think a lot of that take in that aforementioned post was rooted in treat defense to start with and any claims made after that were just to justify the “nuh uh, my treats have no effect on me” position that was already there, including that air of superiority over people that do absorb the propaganda. The superior volition champion of propaganda rejection themself probably absorbed some anyway to take such a hardline defensive position to begin with over what should be just entertainment even by their own take.

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          whether the specific guy avoids or is subjected to torture in the penal system doesn’t matter if the things that will reproduce these circumstances in future aren’t changing. the ruling class is getting away with it, fostering prejudice, upholding an unjust economic system, inflicting settler colonialism, etc.

          never be fooled into thinking these punishments for the genuinely bad improve society. they’re just the human sacrifices to make you think the temple priest is actually bringing the rain

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              the community should decide, not you or me. and after providing ideological/educational bases through a socialist party, along with programs where people can work for reparations, the hope is they would choose not to kill people. sorry if that’s vague but centering social good in restorative justice is the opposite from handing down prescriptions from on-high.

              these questions are like asking whether you’d order a pizza with a phone or the internet under socialism, when all we have so far is the broad organizational principles. and that’s not even treating with what the circumstances you’re asking about: what do we do the day after the revolution? what’s the ideal case in a safe and stable socialist society? what should we do right now still under capitalism and prison-industrialism?

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                What if the community decides he should be imprisoned? Should they be allowed to choose that option? I imagine an abolitionist would say no, which means to some extent we are “handing down prescriptions” from outside the immediate situation. That’s not always a bad thing, though – I’d say we shouldn’t have the death penalty, for instance.

                And what is the community allowed to do with him as they decide how to ultimately handle this case? If he says he’s going to flee before they can decide, can they jail him pre-trial?

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                  i think these are decisions that would probably be made on a level higher than a locality, but who can say their shape just yet. my personal opinion is pretty hands off (i.e. if they really democratially decide to kill someone, i’m fine with it) but the party or region could most certainly forbid it shrug-outta-hecks

                  but something like a prison system has to be centrally organized, and it’s not popping up overnight if one neighborhood wants to put a murderer in it. the ‘state’ or whatever regional/national organization ought to have the alternatives to prison already organized so cases people might want to apply ‘prison’ to would be much simpler to put there instead of recreating prisons from scratch

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            I’m taking about this specific case. If you’re going to support abolition, you have to directly address these type of crimes, not just the ones where any leftist would agree they should be handled leniently (if the activity should be criminalized at all).

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      soviets had prisons also, imho judging all prisons by america’s example is like judging all governments by america’s example. like as much as europe sucks they have countries where the cops don’t kill as many people proportionally. some countries have prison systems that focus on rehabilitation instead of retribution. it’s like judging all military actions by the nazi’s example (i.e. resisting genocide with violence makes you just as bad as the genociders!)

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    this is some Nietzsche shit, unspoken (but implied) mass communication strategies for dominance in a geopolitical consent war polluting the minds of uninvolved outsiders