• arabiclearner [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Yeah but have you ever considerd that “pEoPlE cHoOsE tO bElIeVe In PrOpAgAnDa!!! I AM BIG BRAINED LEFTIST YOU MUST AGREE WITH ME OR ELSE YOU ARE REACTIONARY UWUWUWUWU!!!”

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        That post took the thesis of Masses, Elites, and Rebels and warped it to the point it became dumb. It’d be like reading Oppose Book Worship and coming to the conclusion that you should never read theory.

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          took the thesis of Masses, Elites, and Rebels

          That work got swung around in that thread over and over again like a bludgeon, practically unopened with pre-loaded takes already pre-justified just by invoking a surface-level summary. debord-tired

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                  Seemed like a massive effortpost to say “nuh uh, propaganda has no effect on me because I choose for it not to. I believe I am 100% immune to the propaganda I consume. Everyone else should choose the same thing, should know what propaganda is and how to reject it, and it’s their fault if they don’t.” smuglord

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                    So, I have a memory of a similar thread where someone was like “why didn’t propaganda reach us?” Which feels like the same thing but more naive.

                    I think the propagandist understands they are manipulating masses, not individuals, and it probably helps us to think of ourselves as lucky (in a manner of speaking). I freely admit that if I got my degree and a high paying tech job immediately out of uni, my politics would probably be garbage, even though I have nominally the same access to propaganda.

                    I’ve forgotten what this thread was about. Protest in front of the US Consulate now

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          Some people are just better than others and they got theirs when they successfully reject propaganda (totally rejected 100% btw, their entertainment has no effect on them, for real, never ever) and it’s every individual’s burden from birth to identify and reject propaganda in the same way or else nothing could have been done otherwise.

          If they don’t, well, they should have thought about that before becoming susceptible to propaganda!

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              I think a lot of that take in that aforementioned post was rooted in treat defense to start with and any claims made after that were just to justify the “nuh uh, my treats have no effect on me” position that was already there, including that air of superiority over people that do absorb the propaganda. The superior volition champion of propaganda rejection themself probably absorbed some anyway to take such a hardline defensive position to begin with over what should be just entertainment even by their own take.