Summary
Egg producers blame the bird flu outbreak for record-high prices, but critics argue dominant companies are exploiting supply shortages to boost profits.
With over 166 million birds culled and egg layers significantly reduced, prices surged from under $2 to nearly $5 per dozen.
Egg supply is down only 4% from last year, yet profits have surged. Cal-Maine Foods, supplying 20% of U.S. eggs, reported a $219 million profit in the last quarter, compared to just $1.2 million before the outbreak, a 18,150% increase.
Lawmakers and advocacy groups are calling for a government investigation into potential monopolistic practices.
100% they are.
I don’t know truth as I one saw YouTube Videos of grocery stores
Egg prices for a dozen… in Canada are around $4.75 (Canadian) In Mexico $53-$70 pesos… or around $2.50-$3.50 US
Edit: after quick search looks like Mexico avoided bird flu because they vaccinate their chickens… didn’t realize we are that strong against vaccination we won’t even vax the chix
My big question is that if a whole flock is killed when bird flu is discovered, why are JUST egg prices going up? My local grocery store recently had a sale on chicken but the eggs are in short supply and cost nearly 10 times what they used to a few months ago? Shouldn’t chicken meat be expensive too? Or do I not know anything about poultry farming and bird flu?
My understanding is that there are different breeds of chickens used for eggs and meat.
This came up earlier in the outbreak for two reasons:
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Egg-laying chickens apparently take longer to age to the point where they produce eggs than meat chickens do before they are killed, so it takes longer to replace the producing stock of chickens.
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Meat chickens are apparently more resistant to the present strain than egg chickens, and are not impacted as badly.
That did make me hope that one could try to produce a hybrid egg chicken that could maybe also be more resistant.
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Ah, this mentions both factors. Thought I’d need to dig up an article for each.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/egg-prices-shortage-chicken-question-everything/
“It takes 20 weeks to get a chicken to egg-laying age,” Hall explained. “The main problem is that it’s going to take so long to get that replacement flock.”
So when a farm has to destroy egg-laying chickens because of the spread of bird flu, it takes at least five months to get new hens to that egg-laying age again.
It’s a formula for trouble. Fewer egg-laying chickens means fewer eggs in the grocery store. Less supply with more demand means higher prices.
But it’s not the case for chicken meat. Why? First off, eggs and the chicken meat you buy at the store come from two different kinds of chickens.
Two types of chickens
The chicken breasts, wings and thighs that fill the refrigerators and freezers at Hall’s farm come from a “meat” chicken. It’s also known as a “broiler”, and it’s bred differently than a hen.
“A meat chicken is much wider, grows quicker,” Hall said.
A broiler is bred for rapid growth. It goes from a little chick to processing in less than two months, so they are very quickly replaced. Because of their short lifespan, there is also less time to be infected with bird flu. Therefore, supply for broiler chickens hasn’t been an issue.
Egg-laying chickens, or hens, are far more susceptible to bird flu. According to the USDA, of the 160 million birds that have been killed during the outbreak, 77% of them are egg-laying hens. The hens simply live longer, so they have more exposure.
At Nallie Pastures, egg prices have held at $8 a dozen. Hens there have all remained healthy and business is healthy too.
EDIT: Hmm. I take back the bit about meat chickens being more genetically-vulnerable. It sounds from this article like it’s just that the need to keep them alive longer to reach egg production makes them more vulnerable, and other articles I dig up say the same thing. I probably just misunderstood some earlier article that said that egg chickens were more vulnerable to mean that they were more genetically-vulnerable.
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prices surged from under $2 to nearly $5 per dozen.
Where the fuck does this editor live? Cuz where I am, they went from $2 to $12.
A few states, like California, have minimum cage size mandates, so people in the state are banned from using eggs in the general pool, and so the shortage is worse there.
EDIT: Though it does mean more eggs for people in the no-minimum-cage-size restriction states, so it brings prices down a bit for them.
Are capitalists being capitalist? More on that at 10.
I live in Alaska, and if nobody was talking about the eggs thing I wouldn’t have had more of a thought about it than “huh, eggs are a little expensive right now. Or are they? Have they always been this expensive?”
For reference, eggs here are $10-$11 a dozen. And for extra reference, a regular sized container of strawberries fluctuates between $5 and $12, and a carton of ice cream (e.g. Dreyer’s) is generally around $12 if it’s not on sale.
The thing is, around here people just… shift what they buy mostly. Strawberries are expensive? Time to buy apples. Ice cream is expensive? Wait to buy until it’s on sale, then buy 8. Bread is only $4.50 a loaf? HOLY SHIT, FILL HALF THE FREEZER.
I’m not trying to minimize the issue. There are lots of people who specifically need eggs (e.g. bakers), but for the most part, I feel like this is some weird hyper-fixation. This feels like toilet paper at the beginning of the pandemic.
To egg distributors: sell more 6-packs. Outside of baking, I just don’t think normal people need that many eggs.
Some people have been having one or three eggs every day for the past 60 years. For me, I just stopped eating eggs, for these people it’s harder. It’s dumb but what isn’t?
They did last time.
Yeah people act like this hasn’t been going on for years at this point.
Lawmakers and advocacy groups are calling for a government investigation into potential monopolistic practices.
lol. this government believes in free market and corporate profits. if found guilty of monopolistic practices the top execs will immediately be offered more tax breaks, handouts and/or high profile government positions
Yes
A rare inversion of Betteridge’s law of headlines is “whenever someone questions whether or not the rich and powerful are exploiting everyone, the answer is yes”
It’s capitalism, baby!
Im not sure its the producers that inflate it. Its usually those between producer and consumer
It’s not capitalism, baby?
Maybe it’s Maybelline
I BOUGHT my eggs from small local farmers but they have been charging market prices. I asked a few of them why. One said if he didn’t that people would swoop in and buy all his inventory and likely resell it. Another, who ALSO has not been affected by bird flu said it is an investment for IF he loses his flock. So now I don’t buy eggs and have not been to a breakfast diner in about a year. I have actually ceased from eating out completely and purchase my food mostly from local farms and cut out meat. My cholesterol, sugar and BP have all greatly improved. Who knew, less is more. I am still annoyed that local farmers are keeping up with the market. The local Amish sold “pun’kins” to Walmart at .50 a piece which Walmart then sold for up to $8. At the Amish stand, they were selling them for $8.
The possibility of losing their entire flock of chickens is a pretty reasonable concern right now.
I’m sure if you offered to buy an entire field of pumpkins they would work with you on the price. It’s sort of how trade works.
What’s a “pun’kin”?
I’m guessing it’s a quantity of eggs, but Google isn’t helping.
A pumpkin.
Eggs are really hard to steal. Not impossible, just difficult.
Why can’t I find half dozen eggs? I don’t each many eggs so a dozen would have a significant number wasted. They used to be self half dozen quantities?
You can’t eat 12 eggs in 4 weeks?
I might only want one omelet in a month but I’d force myself to have a 2nd I order to use up the eggs.
They last so much longer than the best before date.
Yes but not nearly long enough. I like occasional 2 egg omelette but not more than once a week.
People have to understand that if the price is too high, they can just not buy it.
It is as simple as that. As long as you buy, it is not too expensive. Just stop eating eggs.
What you’re saying is true in fact, but I feel like you’re letting the price gougers off the hook a little. Eggs are popular because they’re versatile, nutritionally dense and traditionally cheap. Eggs are almost the best breakfast kids can have before school because they help with focus and keep them full. There really isn’t a replacement at the same price point. I don’t think we should expect them to be so cheap that we rely on animal cruelty, but they shouldn’t be a luxury item either.
EDIT: to clarify, it’s the protein and fat that help with focus and fullness, not eggs specifically.
Cottage cheese is a delicious replacement. Tons of fat and protein. It takes seasonings very well, and/or you can add just about anything to it.
I was just briefly fact checking myself and apparently it can even replace eggs in some kind of baking! That’s cool.
I like it many ways but with nuts added, a bit of hot sauce, and whatever seasoning is a great go to. I forgot how much I loved it until a couple months ago.
Yes, eggs are very good nutritionwise. But deseases like mentioned in the post (those greedy company owners) should steer people away from it. Somehow it doesn’t and people keep buying it.
I’d prefer oats + (soy) yoghurt (skyr) + fruits
There really isn’t a replacement at the same price point.
Oatmeal, but I guess some kids are picky about eating goo 😅
Oatmeal has far less protein and vitamins, more calories, hundreds of times more carbs, etc.
They are correct. Oatmeal is not a replacement in terms of nutrition at that price point.
Half a cup of dry oats has 5g of protein and 1 egg has 6.3g of protein. The difference isn’t huge, and since we’re talking about price then it should be noted $5 will get you only a dozen eggs but can also get you 30 servings of Quaker oats.
No argument that it has carbs, but it also has fiber and kids rarely get enough of that.
It isn’t a bad substitute. Plus you can add fruit and nuts! You’re just being picky.
I don’t know if you realize this but when you say “you’re being picky” about food in contexts such as this it can be considered ableist, and also dismissive and inconsiderate in my opinion. I prefer oatmeal to eggs but if someone told me I was “being picky” because of a choice I made because of price, sensory experience, and energy cost, I would be offended. I wouldn’t say this every time the word is used but the context and your username make me think it is appropriate and you might be receptive to the feedback.
You’re talking just about breakfast and for some reason kids. Eggs are simply used for much more than that.
They are used in custards, quiches, enriched breads, pasta, pastries, fried rice, egg salads, mayonnaise, etc. The list goes on. There is no real substitute for it.
Great job at the end there commenting on something that isn’t what I said. I should have known better than to bother replying to you.
Considering where egg prices were, and that being the root of the discussion, the cost comparison is irrelevant and worthless.
You should also be comparing a cooked cup of oatmeal to two eggs.
And I’ll go ahead and stop there.
I thought we were talking about oats being a substitute for eggs under the current price regime, where prices were didn’t seem relevant? Also, I just compared 1 serving to 1 serving. Why not compare 1 cup of dry oats to two eggs if you’re just going to freestyle your breakfast? I only mentioned fruit and nuts because those are things you don’t really add to eggs, and can help picky eaters.
I batch cook steel cut oats in a rice cooker every weekend, 50/50 water/milk. The kids previously rejected instant rolled oats, but actually like steel cut!
The goo texture is only from rolled oats, steel cut oats are so much better.
Food too expensive? Just don’t eat.
Housing too expensive? Just don’t sleep.
Haven’t bought eggs all year. Not over $4. Of course, for me, they’re just a nice treat…shoyu eggs make a great snack; egg baked on khachapuri; fried over rice. Some people, they’re a key protein, or essential to cakes & cookies. I figure, if the price is high, then leaving them on the shelf makes more available where they’re irreplaceable, but I can still feel bad for people who have to pay that price.
Who is forced to pay it? Eggs aren’t irreplacable
It’s important to remember that we can’t dictate or predict other people’s dietary restrictions. We can still feel empathy for people in a predicament due to prices
Dietary restriction? What disease mandates eating eggs?
Empathy for people for eating expensive eggs? Usually people want empathy for the animals because eating them is cruel.
One example I can think of is that it could be a safe food for someone with an eating disorder or sensory considerations.
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Got 6 chickens last year, the wife said we probably spent too much decking out their living space. I say probably, but they’re more pets for me to have, the 6 eggs a day is just a nice bonus.
Smash cut to this year: suddenly my “investment” is going to be paid off much sooner 😅
How much human food can you feed a chicken before they get sick?
They can eat lots of things! Certain seeds (cherry apple) can kill them. Just like us practice moderation.
What amount is moderate though? I throw out more leftovers than I wish, it would be nice to have some chickens eat that. Can I replace 50% of its diet with leftovers?
I used this as a basic guide https://www.backyardchickenchatter.com/what-can-chickens-eat/
What is a cherry apple? Asking for a friend, who is a chicken.
President Felon in in charge, they are totally going to rob consumers. No one will stop them. I don’t eat eggs so I am rooting for the prices to go up. Are they $20/a dozen yet?
