• AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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    • be me
    • finally a practicing doctor after an eternity of school
    • on my way to the next patient
    • overwhelming stench of B.O. as I open the door
    • try my best to hide my disgust and ask how he’s doing
    • patient goes on a rant about how life is unfair, something about jewish people and 13%
    • just nod along as I pull up his info
    • guy is clearly depressed
    • suggest ssri’s to improve his outlook on life
    • youveactivatedmytrapcard.jpg
    • guy proceeds to spend 20 minutes talking about how he saw a post online saying ssri’s are bad, it’s mind control, and he mentions jewish people again
    • already 5 minutes late for my next patient
    • nod and agree and tell him to have a nice day

    Why can’t these people understand I’m just trying to help them?

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        Or they know there’s no point trying to rationalize someone out of an opinion they didn’t reason themselves into. Oh, and it’s worthless to prescribe medication for someone who doesn’t want to take it.

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        They’ve got 18 other people to see that day, and most of them probably want help. Might as well go help them.

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        I disagree, I think the doc did care but they knew that wasn’t a battle they were going to win so they just conceded and moved on to the next patient.

        There’s a saying that you can lead the horse to water but you can’t make them drink and that summarizes the scenario quite well,

        if you mentioning a topic spurs the person into a 5 or 10 minute rant about the topic you’re not going to come out on top they already have too firm of an opinion. Just save your energy and help the next guy.

        That’s how we were trained in selling merchandise as well, you can give your recommendations but if you say your recommendation and the customer has a firm opinion otherwise, backtrack a little bit and start focusing on the good things that the customers looking for in the product. The only thing pushing the topic further is going to do is going to aggravate them and make them lose faith in your ability to know your merchandise.

        also referring to the child comment, this gives mad “look you’re my friend but you argue way the fuck much and I don’t have the energy for this right now” vibes lol

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        Of course they do, they care enough to present what they think will be a successful option. Just cuz they don’t want to get in a fight doesn’t mean they don’t care at all.

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    The doctor’s internal monologue: “Oh God it’s one of these assholes who did 10min of googling and reading forums and thinks they know every single thing about medical science. Fuck fuck fuck he won’t shut up I shouldn’t have suggested that. OK, deflect, call him smart and move on that’ll get him to shut up finally”

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      “If I push on this, I will alienate myself from this clearly mentally unstable patient and at that point there is no chance to help them”

      It’s literally how mental health professionals are trained.

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          It depends on the reason for their agitation. If they’re having a paranoid moment then you need ti tell them the truth to help them out of it.

          If you lie they might pick up on it and that kills the trust they have in you.

          You don’t have to press them to take meds they don’t want to take, but if you lie about why you’re stopping (“maybe you’re right”), instead of telling the truth about why you’re stopping (“I don’t want to break our therapeutic connection by pushing you”), it can make things backslide.

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      In this image: Anon doesn’t know how to read subtext

      What the doctor said: “It seems you’ve done some research. It’s true that medication often has side effects, but this is not always the case and is often outweighed by the benefits. Let’s set that option aside for now, and revisit later.”

      What anon heard: “Wow, you avoided my dastardly trap! I’m going to have to be more careful around you.”

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      Or… God dammit, another person seeking to abuse benzos. That’s like half of all new appointments for psychiatry. The minute the patient goes on a rant about SSRI, you can guess where they are directing the conversation to.

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    Anon, I’m respectfully advising you to think about this interaction and reflect more on it.

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      Excellent, politely and respectfully addressing the OP of a post on another site from many years ago.

      👍

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          be me roman empire anon date is 9/29/0024 went to the collesseum and saw a dude get eaten by a lion went to the bathhouse afterwards and shot the shit with Plato didn’t even feel the effects of lead poisoning today feelsgoodman

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            btw if you want the > things like on 4chan without using the quote block things you have to use the \ symbol before the > symbol, like this:

            >words words words

            You can also put 2 spaces after text to get it to recognize the next line correctly

            Like that!

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    Well, a psychiatrist or a therapist isn’t there to be combative. They are there to make you feel better. If you believe the medication won’t work and you don’t do anything with it, you actually won’t see any difference - even if it actually helps you, you will think “I just had a better day, it’s all”. SSRIs sadly aren’t magic happy pills, but they do help if you let them, provided you don’t have treatment resistant depression (which could also mean you have something else, for which SSRIs aren’t the full solution, at least that was the case for me).

    Not a doctor, just an idiot that went through all of it and trying to cope with ADHD. Medicated of course.

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    Huh, a post on a site usually frequented by lonely edgelords. A site notorious for racism and violence. And this post is what, appealing to temperance? No, of course not. It’s trying to convince the unstabled medicated ones to stop taking their medication.

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        Sure it is, O(OP) decided his own opinion of a medicine based on what he read on the internet trump’s actually trying to get help.

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          Medicine often plays an important part in the holistic model of treating problems if prevention has already failed, yeah. Not totally sure what you’re trying to say here

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            It’s said in irony, and no, you can not medicate away all your problems even though some seem to think different

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              No one here is saying you can medicate all your problems away. I’ve genuinely never met anyone who claimed you could

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                I have. People who believe in magic bullshit like homeopathic “medicine” have tried to tell me their herbs can heal anything and everything.