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      We were trusted to protect the village from the terrors in the night for thousands of years! Now we’re cast aside as pariahs, weird beings that shouldn’t be in the group just because we’re different. Until we regain the respect we deserve, the day walkers shall receive none of our treasures!

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            Is 1pm an exaggeration or am I unintentionally rude even though I’m trying to be respectful? I don’t do anything to make noise like mowing, running my chainsaw, etc until after 11am. I used to start up late and sleep in until I had kids (wish I still could) so even though I’m up by at least 6am I find other stuff to do until at least 11 . Nobody has complained but I don’t think I would have complained myself.

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      The problem is, when they start with construction noises at 8am, this is all fine and legal, but if I come back at them with vacuuming at 11pm, I’ll just get a fine.

      It’s ok, I run my drier at night. It’s enough to be annoying and not enough for anyone to call the police.

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        Depends on the country. Mine doesn’t have laws about that, other than “disturbing the peace”. You can disturb the peace during the day too by revving an obnoxious motorcycle for instance. But no hours are codified as “night time” or “day time”. Only place it appears is blocks of flats, where the community can set it, when it’s binding. Also they can set it to be during any time they want it, so if a night owl sets it it could get weird :d

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    Me sneaking into the sleeping room to not wake up my wife who has already been sleeping for 3 hours.

    vs

    My wife yelling “get out of the bed, it’s already 9am!” in the morning.

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    I’m a night person and my main job only has core hours in the afternoon. I’m also a farmer and if I don’t wake up and work in the morning, the heat is deadly in summer (our humidity is frequently 80+%). I’m now oppressed by the climate as well, hehehe.

    Sunrise and sunset in eastern Japan are also super early, so I’m not getting much of anything done between the end of core time and sunset even on our longest days.

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      my main job

      I’m also a farmer

      Never has Japan felt so foreign to me as while reading this comment. Being a farmer (as a job, not just gardening as a hobby) and having another career at the same time? What is this sorcery?

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        I have a cousin who is a farmer in the US and also has to have a second job. He probably has millions invested in machinery, but last time I talked to him about it he said for the cost of the equipment to really make sense he needs more land to farm. Right now he has unused capacity.

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        I just bought a house with land and started farming this year so maybe ask me in another year or two how it’s going, heh. No animals for now. I’ve managed to get a lot of food for us with some left over to sell.

        Oh, in the US, nearly all farmers are either getting subsidies and/or have off-farm jobs

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            The only government subsidies I could get that I know of (as a registered farmer) are from my local city to plant certain types of crops and it’s not a ton. JA (Japan Agriculture) might have something else, but I’m not sure. I imagine rice farming gets the bulk of things, and I don’t currently farm rice.

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    I call that bullshit until owls give up the monopoly on every fucking fun event/gathering you can attend. Meeting with friends? Yeah let’s do this in the fucking night!! Concert or a party? God damn midnight would be sufficient. What? You want to have a fun time at reasonable time of fucking day? Boo opressor go to hell

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      We’re winning the war, you can see here one of the oppressors is demoralized by our brutal tactics

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      Monopoly my ass. You morning people are just too lame to organize things that don’t fucking suck.

      Every once in a while someone forces me awake on a weekend morning, and I’m appalled by how eventless and boring it is until like noon anyway.

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        Ha, come hang with me in the summer on a Saturday. We’ll start climbing a 14,000 foot mountain (thats like 4600 meters for my EU friends) at 5/6am with intent on reaching the peak before 12. Why 12? Because the afternoon thunderstorms are rolling in and lets just say lightning is electrifying at 14000…. Well, at any height really.

        Boring, never.

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          You’ve cured my insomnia. Thanks for the snooze.

          (I’m just horsing around, please don’t hate me, I love you)

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          Sounds terrible. Where I live, the marine layer doesn’t even recede until afternoon anyway. The sun basically doesn’t get up until twelve. Why do I have to be?

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          Hiking before sunup is dangerous, so be sure to only do it when the dangers from late hiking grow to be larger or if there is a significant prize to be gained from finishing early (pizza)

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            Yup, it is very often that the risk trade-off favours starting early. There’s a term alpine start for a reason. Whether it’s impending weather later in the day, or snow conditions will warm increasing avalanche risk, or the objective is just so long you want to make sure you’re back down on the easy bit. Had the latter last month. Did a traverse is seven summits and even with the 6am start it was dark by the time we got down from the ridge and back into the valley. Trail ran our way out by headlamps, singing dumb songs to not spook any grizzlies. Such a good outing!

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            Check out the sunrise times in the summer. 5am, we’re seeing dawn breaking. I’m not hiking in the dark, nor on a trail I don’t know. Also, flashlights help for those 20 min.

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        I’ve actually seen more parties start in the afternoon or just after dinner here. I’m not even a morning person per se but I also don’t want to be home at 8am. I applaud it.

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      We could organize stuff earlier… If we weren’t either in work or sleeping after a full week of getting up in the morning to “be productive members of society” !

      Barely relevant side note, I wanted to go to a concert in Poland, Powerwolf, Hammerfall and Wind Rose are playing in Kraków, but it’s on Monday? Who the hell makes a concert on Monday?!? God-damn it.

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      You’re saying that and yet the farmers market closes at 12pm. That shit is my fun, and yet I’m too sleepy to appreciate it

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    Recently my therapist:

    Look at you! You used to work night shifts and now you’re working at 5 am!

    Me:

    Yes, nothing changed. I just don’t want to work near people. So I do what I can to minimize that.

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      Mate I love starting work at 6 AM. Being able to finish work before the early afternoon and having both the post-lunch rush over, pre-rush-hour on the highways, and almost all establishments empty is such a blessing. It’s a major life change from working third shift.

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        The only good thing about third shift was being drunk at 8am convincing yourself it’s normal because 8am is your night time.

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    As a morning person, I don’t want more people waking up early, it’s my peaceful time and I want to keep it that way.

    I wish night owls respected my sleep time during holidays instead of making explosions at night cause of reasons (fireworks).

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        Right? This person is so fucking entitled. How dare people enjoy a few nights a year!

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          Synthesis: everyone should have a well constructed residence with ample sound dampening where late night fireworks and early morning traffic noise wouldn’t be a problem. Capitalist real estate developers minimizing their costs and maximizing their profits have us fighting each other when they’re the real problem.

          e; I was actually thinking microphones would pick up and retransmit sounds after running it through some reverb and flanging to get a cozy underwater effect, but damping external sounds makes a lot more sense

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        Drag suggests solving the problem by improving the train lines. Electric trains are quieter than cars. If everyone takes the train to work, there will be less car noise.

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      Oh no, you have to be inconvenienced on three holidays a year! Night owls have to drag themselves out of bed every day because some dickheads decided that every job has to start at 8 AM.

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            Depends on the degree. Hospitals , factories and utilities all operate 24 hours. A wide range of roles/degrees needed there. With work from home time shifting and supporting a region in a time zone more acceptable to an individual’s sleep schedule is possible. I did this in IT, also common in finance and banking.

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      Drag read that burning heavy metals in the atmosphere is bad for public health and wildlife. Drag is ashamed drag didn’t realise it from common sense and instead had to have it explained to drag. Drag is now enlightened that fireworks are bad.

      Let’s do drone shows instead.

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      Moving the fireworks to when the sun is high in the sky will be a hard sell, no one can see them and everyone will complain, daysider and nightsider.

      Tell the markets to stay open past noon or the shopping centres to stay open later than five. Late night shopping where I live is six pm. Weekend shopping? Four pm, unless the shop randomly decides to close at two. I’ve lost count how often I have rocked up to a store, and hour before closing, to find out they closed early so they could go enjoy the sun.

      Seriously, I hate that if I keep to my normal sleep schedule (and this avoids insomnia and being sick all the time), I have a two hour window on most days to get things done. That two hours is from the moment I wake until shops close, not including the normal wake up stuff like showering, or eating. It also doesn’t include travel time, and I live in a sprawl where everything is a half hour away. I’d love to support the farmers markets, or browse the local markets and fairs. They are closing when I arrive, and I’ve already sacrificed sleep to try and attend.

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      If only you knew the joy of walking around the city at night. Not a damn soul. (Unless it’s the weekend ofc, then the streets are full and everyone is smashed)

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      Yup, I just watched this episode yesterday. It’s Pallavi Gunalan, on episode 7 of Smartypants.

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      Diabel: Alright, looks like everyone’s grouped up. Get plenty of rest tonight, people! We leave at noon!

      Player 2: *Groans* Noon?

      Player 3: That’s so early!

      Diabel: *Sighs* Alright. What about 1 o’clock?

      Player 8: 1? Dude, come on!

      Diabel: *Groans* God, fine! We leave at the crack of… 2:30, I guess. Lazy butts…

      Player 4: Christ, I’m gonna have to set my alarm.

      ~Sword Art Online Abridged, episode 2

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    People see staying up late as a moral failing and feel that it’s their job to guilt trip anyone who sleeps in as lazy and wasting the day away.

    People see morning people as industrious and morally superior and don’t criticize them for their preferred sleeping habits. At worst they get some ribbing for not being able to stay away for new years, but it’s seen as understandable and a more pious lifestyle.

    So… Yeah. Morning people wingeing in the comments here can fight me, I’ll meet you at 10 o. Clock tonight outside.