The link is Elon’s reply to the OP.

  • wild_dog [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    It never made sense that blocking someone stopped them from seeing your public posts

    Yes it does. It’s actually good to make it harder to stalk people. Yes, it wasn’t a perfect system but every layer of extra work makes it harder to harass people who blocked you is good.

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      2 months ago

      That doesn’t make it any harder for someone to harass you. They can’t harass you if they can’t interact with you.

      And being worried about stalking is extremely counter to posting something publicly.

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        2 months ago

        Wanting to post something publicly except to all the specific dipshits you took additional actions to not want to interact with seems like a pretty reasonable want.

        Considering that’s the exact moderation approach of the website were all on.

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          2 months ago

          Considering that’s the exact moderation approach of the website were all on.

          Except it literally isn’t? You can’t block someone from seeing your posts on here.

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            2 months ago

            There’s a level of anonymity here where OpSec is up to the user for the most part.

            Twitter is much more connected to a lot of people’s actual identities as it was also a space for organizations, businesses and other public figures to post to the general public, with these accounts being run mostly by the public figure themselves, and PR for the really rich people and orgs. As such protections on Twitter needed to be as broad as possible.

            All fences are scalable and climbable, but as the other user was saying, it’s good to make that climb harder for the bad actors in this scenario.

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            2 months ago

            If somebody’s being an antagonistic asshole they get banned pretty much immediatly because the mods understand there’s nothing of value from some nazi coming in and quoting fbi crime statistics everytime somebody says you shouldn’t murder black people.

            Also nobody gives a shit about them reading your post it’s the part where they respond like a nazi would that people have a problem with.

            You can literally say “disengage” on this website to stop that shit and if the person keeps being a tool they can get banned just for that.

            So yea that very much is what’s happening here.

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              2 months ago

              I think you’re misunderstanding the change here. The change is solely about a blocked user being able to read the posts of the person who blocked them. This has nothing to do with banning or stopping them from being able to reply.

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                2 months ago

                Oh shit my bad if they already can’t reply to the post yea this seems trivial.

                Sorry, don’t use Twitter I thought this meant blocked users could see your posts and respond to them you just couldn’t see their posts.

                Im a dumbass and I apologize for wasting everyone’s time.

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        The current system makes it harder because you have to create a new account. There are people who are either too dumb to realize they can do that or just won’t bother jumping through the extra hoops. Obviously it’s not perfect, but it’s better than doing this.

        And being worried about stalking is extremely counter to posting something publicly.

        Using Twitter on private kinda sucks. It makes the site less fun. All this is doing is making it so the creeps can have more fun on the site while marginalized people being harassed by those creeps have a worse experience on the site. not sure why y’all are defending this but whatever.

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          2 months ago

          The only hoop you have to jump through is using a Nitter instance. And the most dangerous abusers are most likely going to be determined enough to where doing this or creating a new account is not a deterrent.

          False security is worse than no security. If people trust that the block function is reliable at stopping people from seeing your posts, and then those people post things publicly that they wouldn’t share otherwise, that is leaving more people vulnerable than having no way to stop people from seeing your posts.

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            Most people don’t know what Nitter is. Most people aren’t “the most dangerous users,” they’re lazy, so any extra steps is a deterrent. Keeping the weak deterrent is still a net positive.

            The types of posts i’m talking about here aren’t things like “this is where i live” but innocuous things that transphobes or racists decide to take out of context. I would post all these things publicly but it’s good to be able to make them more private from the freaks who are gonna freak out bc I said trans kids exist and put me in a cringe compilation to encourage others to harass me. Twitter never made it impossible to do that, but Elon’s making it easier.