Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said there will not be another debate against his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2585·
    2 months ago

    She needs to still show up as scheduled, say that just because trump won’t make time for the American people doesn’t mean she will ignore them

    Either he takes the bait and shows up, or she dominates the news cycle now, before the debate, during the debate, and after it

    The whole time trump won’t be able to talk about anything besides the debate and how it’s not “fair”.

    It’s the common sense move, so I’ll be surprised to see it, but I hope they do.

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      122·
      2 months ago

      Make it a town hall. We really do need to hear questions and answers of serious topics now that the clown has left the big top.

      • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
        47·
        2 months ago

        This is a far better option. Holding a debate without the other candidate is fodder for Trump to do the same on ONN or Fox News. But holding a town hall and inviting Trump as an optional attendee would create engagement, and either Trump will ignore it, join the same one, or hold his own and most likely screw up his own.

        Win, win, win.

          • barsquid@lemmy.world
            16·
            2 months ago

            “Mr. Trump, people are saying immigrants are flooding across our borders to eat our pets before receiving sexual reassignment surgery in prison. Do you have a concept of a plan how to deal with this?”

          • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            It looks like he already had at least one called a town hall coordinated with FOX News a week ago. It looks like he only answered questions from Hannity and not the audience full of supporters, so they couldn’t even pull off the handpicked shills pretend town hall format.

    • Gork@lemm.ee
      291·
      2 months ago

      The moderator should also ask the empty podium the same question they just asked Harris, with a brief pause to emphasize that he is a no-show.

    • SGG@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      2 months ago

      Just treat the debate as normal, but they just swap to the empty podium where Trump should have been.

      After the debate they say Trump showed a marked improvement this time.

    • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world
      6·
      2 months ago

      She needs to still show up as scheduled, say that just because trump won’t make time for the American people doesn’t mean she will ignore them

      That reminds of the 2020 presidential election in Poland when both candidates did exactly what you describe - they debated at the same time but in separate studios. And the story how it came to that is wild.

      This was after the first round of the elections (where two candidates are selected for the second round), which involved things like last-minute rescheduling of the elections, last-minute candidate swap and effectively throwing away 20 million dollars of public money. Currently there are several criminal investigations conducted against people involved in organisation of that first round. And of course it was all in the middle of the pandemic. So the political chaos was at its absolute peak.

      The two candidates were the country’s president representing then ruling party and capital city’s mayor representing then biggest opposition party. Both of course wanted the debate. The issue was that then ruling party turned the public broadcaster into a party propaganda machine compared by experts to that created by Goebbels. And the core of that propaganda was that the second biggest (private) broadcaster in Poland (owned by Discovery Group) is anti-Polish and cannot be trusted.

      Both broadcasters offered they can organise the debate. The private one I believe was also willing to jointly host it. But the ruling party candidate couldn’t agree to a debate hosted by the private broadcaster because that would significantly impact the propaganda and expose his many wrongdoings to the manipulated ruling party voters.

      On the other hand, the opposition candidate couldn’t agree for the debate hosted only by the public broadcaster because that would effectively be 2 hours of him trying to deny lies spread by hosts and the other candidate.

      The 2nd round was coming close and no compromise has been found. So on the same day the two broadcasters prepared their studios for two candidates with audience. Ruling party candidate went to public broadcaster, opposition candidate to private one. Both declared the other as a “no-show” and proceeded to have a “debate” with hosts and audience.

      Few days later the opposition candidate lost by a small margin.

    • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      29·
      2 months ago

      I agree. Trump did a townhall when Harris didn’t show up to the first proposed the debate, she should do a townhall to replace the next one if Trump ultimately does not show. It’d be a great way to quell complaints that she is afraid of speaking to the media or press as well.

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 months ago

        To qualify as a proposed debate it would have to be a proposal that a reasonable bystander would take seriously.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
      901·
      2 months ago

      Trump is on tape telling people in the room that the only person he’s afraid of is Sanders.

      Fast forward to now and he’s apparently added Harris to that list. It’s beautiful.

          • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
            55·
            2 months ago

            His policies are obviously great, we all know this. But you can’t go into a hostile environment like a Fox News Town Hall and completely dominate proceedings on policy alone.

    • BigPotato@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      I’ve watched that movie too many times. I was about to comment “The line is supposed to be ‘Tommy’ since he’s talking to Tommy, The Tit”… Oh wait, it says Donny because Trump… Yeah.

  • thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca
    60·
    2 months ago

    with Harris’ team unsuccessfully pushing for both candidates’ microphones to stay on even when it was not their turn to answer.

    Wait a minute, Harris’ team was the one pushing for always-on mics? That’s actually such a flex lol.

    • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      Not really. It was always her tactic to make him go nuts. Provoking him into shouting over her would have gone along with that and just made him look bad.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
      14·
      2 months ago

      I think it would have been a smart choice. The rationale behind muting was trying to force both parties to having a nice, civil discussion, to force decorum upon the proceedings that formerly was just a given, but generally not respected by Trump, by his nature.

      However one part of the first debate was that the muting might have saved Trump from his own worst impulses. To be sure, Biden made his own problems that were far far worse, but part of Trump looking relatively reasonable in his conduct that night was being forced only to speak in turn.

      Slam dunk is if you let him put his unhinged nature and unreasonable behavior on full display, while also managing to manage him so that you are still heard.

      I would not be surprised if a career in the courtroom dealing with all manner of hard to deal with people is the best prep anyone could ask for to deal with a personality like Trump.

        • aesthelete@lemmy.world
          111·
          2 months ago

          Frank Costanza: Let me understand, you got the hen, the chicken and the rooster. The rooster goes with the chicken. So, who’s having sex with the hen?

          George Costanza: Why don’t we talk about it another time.

          Frank Costanza: But you see my point here? You only hear of a hen, a rooster and a chicken. Something’s missing!

          Mrs. Ross: Something’s missing all right.

          Mr. Ross: They’re all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

          Frank Costanza: That’s perverse.

          https://www.quotes.net/mquote/847561

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          41·
          2 months ago

          Yes you are right, just some language confusions there.
          In Danish to be called Chicken is “Kylling”, Which is the non adult bird, and the species is called Høne which sounds like Hen, but in English is the female bird.
          Also in Danish when you eat Chicken it is Kylling, which is definitely not the adult bird, where the meat is dry and tough.
          So when in English the meat you eat is called chicken, it either sucks or is in reality Pullet.
          So why the word pullet isn’t more common, or something else describing the non adult female chicken IDK. When in 90% of cases that seems to be what is understood by “Chicken”.

          But I’m pretty sure when people are called chicken, it is not supposed to mean the male cock.

          • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Pullet is obscure but poultry is a common way to refer to chicken as a food. Gotta love those multiple borrowings from Norman French.

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            But I’m pretty sure when people are called chicken, it is not supposed to mean the male cock.

            “Chicken” has no gender, so either a rooster or hen makes the most sense depending on the gender of whoever you’re insulting.

          • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            We call them broilers if we’re taking about the animal. They’re slaughtered before sexual maturity. That suffices for both male and female.

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
    492·
    2 months ago

    Calling it now:

    Since there’s not enough time left for him to recover from this brutal ego bruise, I predict he’ll only do rallies from now on, or appearances on far-right media, because he’ll retreat to his snowglobe for reassurance for a while. He’ll avoid addressing Kamala directly, but he’ll ramp up his own network and rile up his mob. His team will struggle to rein him in, and some appearances might be cancelled.

    e: once he gets tired of being reassured, he’ll double-down on the unhinged scale

    • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      2 months ago

      This would be a good time for Kamala to keep asking for a debate and challenging him. Maybe even agree to do it on Fox to show how weak he is. Even if he accepted, I don’t think Fox would save him from another bad performance. We’ll see how polling works out I guess.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
      24·
      2 months ago

      He also has a habit of rewatching things like that, and I suspect it has made him bitter. Well, more bitter.

  • EvilBit@lemmy.world
    36·
    2 months ago

    Trump’s campaign manager, using Trump’s phone: “yes this is definitely Donald Trump bigly president please cancel my appointment of debate thank you bye”