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Well there have been multiple attempts but I don’t think target assassinations would help, we need a general strike, but failing that people just refusing to work is probably about as good as it will get. As long as capitalists can still make the line go up they aren’t going to care and will continue to support and utilize police forces against the rest of us.

But don’t you get it , if the Republicans win it will get worse faster. If you elect Democrat the camps they eventually agree too send you to will be so much nicer and dignified.

You balance it against wealth equality, aim for the most wealthy people to have enough to own 1 yact but the least wealthy still have at least a studio apartment to live in. Everyone gets firsts before anyone gets seconds.

Before you get too far into reinventing the wheel, you might want to check out xmmp or webamp which both do a fine job of supporting Opus, Ogg, and FLAC.

I set mine up with support for ever winamp skin i could find

This is why my goal now is to just copy and share as much as possible, they spent decades saying it was theft only to give AI corps a free pass and then some. I’m now a private AI company so its not piracy its just “training data”

A lot of folks just make their money because the line goes up, then instead of spending that money they borrow more using their old money (stocks) as collateral. So long as the line goes up those people have basically a continuing stream of income and credit.

Whenever it stops going up long enough for them to care they will start to introduce their version of UBI which will probably be something like Mr Lee’s KongBucks because every single one of these fuckers seems to have gotten the exact wrong message out of the novel Snow Crash.

So $3 and Google is to “prevent spam”

But yet I can pay less then 0.25$ for an SMS and get 4x the accounts.

I don’t think its going to prevent spam, I think its going to eventually lead to someone getting got for linking a gmail to a signal account.

If you really think that’s worth your time an energy keep spreading the word. I hate animal abusers, I just don’t believe hassan is one of them. If you think he is then you’re right to keep pushing.

Well at least in theory you are upset about this for the right reasons, if you actually care about animal welfare then i guess keep pressing the issue if you think the dog is in serious danger. I’ve seen the claim debunked, I’ve seen him show the collar. Maybe i’m a sucker for giving Hassan the benefit of the doubt but I’d expect if it was true there would be at least one person who knows him personally willing to come out and expose the lie and that has not happened.

Occam’s razor whats more likely? That a leftist activist who supports all the things Hassan does publicly and openly debates socialist ideals and other such things just happens to have this one really weird and cruel belief that shock collars are a good idea, but not so much so that he could defend the use publicly? Or its a coincidence that groups in heavy opposition Hassan felt they could latch on to to discredit him?

I ask you, if this same situation occured, but instead of Hasan, it was h3h3, or XQC, or any other streamer you think is a shithead. What would you think then?

I don’t even know who those other 2 are, I Don’t watch Hassan as a streamer i watch what he does as a political activist and I like what I see and want him to continue, if in some crazy twist he came out and admitted it, I’d probably be forgiving so long as he did something like contrinuting donations to animal welfare causes, but i just don’t find the claim at all believable, and i find the explanations provided by Hassan (and others who have seen the dog/collar) to be entirely believable and credible.

So i dunno maybe i’m just naive but it really seems like a targeted attack to spread distrust against one of the lefts most powerful and well spoken activists.

Remember when Al Franken got “me too’d” for a consensual picture that was taken as a joke? This seems a lot like that. Like its basically the capitalists playbook to keep socialists out of power take something you know they value, spin it out of context enough to beg questions and then start to cause infighting to the effect of discrediting the person so that the real issues get drowned out by the non-sense that has nothing to do with politics even if it was true (which i fully believe its not true).

Oh there is video? How many? this guy is one of the largest streamers with countless hours of video how many can you actually find that isn’t AI? How many actual humans have seen the dog in person and come forward to expose the shock collar? Is hasan just paying them all off?

Debunked as in its not verified by anyone whos ever actually seen or interacted with the dog.

Go back to reddit with this stupidity

Some wackadoos started this conspiracy that Hasan put a shock collar on his dog. Its been debunked but that never really stops anyone these days.

I’ve been enjoying my PS2 a lot lately

So why is it when an individual high up in the company, someone with decision power and who directly benefits from sales, does something that hurts the public perception, suddenly you’re asking us to just ignore it?

This is where its clear you you aren’t actually listening to what im saying. I didnt say it should be ignored. My point is that i think people are learning and sharing the wrong solution, The solution isnt to use your name associated bank account to pay a different VPN provider, its to avoid giving ANY vpn provider information that could link you to the account, and verify that they don’t keep logs. You can do this with LOTS of different vpn providers by looking at their transparency reports and how they respond to court orders, but very few people actually do that, they’d rather just be perforamtive and say “im voting with my wallet” which is lazy and does nothing to improve the situation for anyone.

This same sort of thing happens anytime a VPN company (like proton) responds to a legal court order, everyone was all “How could they do this to us!?!?” and not “Why would an activist pay using a credit card?, maybe we should teach people how payment systems work so they can avoid this in the future” I think we should focus more on the latter, preventative education, so that less people can be targeted or exposed in general.

I see this as a teachable moment, I’m not trying to get people to ignore the underlying issue, I just think it should be part of a more complete re-evaluation of how we all use and pay for VPN providers.

When i say its astroturfing, i don’t mean against mullvad alone, I think there is a coordinated effort going on to instill division and mistrust among vpn users and providers. I think the goal is to amplify negative publicity for any VPN provider they can, its becoming a trend now.

Most people aren’t demanding Mullvad fire the founder,

except they kind of are by saying they’re switching because of his donation specifically, which implies to me that those same people would have to think its acceptable for a company to know and have influence over its founders political beliefs or donations. Like what other result are people expecting other then to have him step down from the org (because probably it would be illegal to actually oust them over political donations, so it’d have to be voluntary anyway).

Lets say it was the case for you, you founded a VPN company and turns out your partner is a fascist but you had no idea when it started because it wasnt until 5 years after the founding that they started dropping hints, what would you do? Start a brand new company? You could pressure them to step down privately, you could release a statement saying the company does not support those causes, and you could do everything in your power internally to ensure that person (and really NO person) has access to any kind of logging or things that could expose users (and thats also just practical in terms of keeping your reputation as a VPN provider in tact really). Mullvad has aready done the last bit, any VPN provide worth using would have to be setup in a similar way really.

Benefit of the doubt that you aren’t asking in bad faith.

How would this be in bad faith? I’m saying i think its short sighted because it seems to me they didn’t think through the entire consequences of what happens if it gets flipped on you or someone you support, while ignoring the things that would actually put more limitations on their own risks, primarily if you just switch to another VPN provide but dont ALSO stop paying with a card or something linked to your name/bank then you are not actually improving your own situation much.

It’s similar to the reaction for Proton “exposing” a customer’s payment information, of course i dont agree with them doing it, but I also understand they are a corporation and subject to laws of their country and court orders so the lesson should not be “dont use this VPN provider because they will rat on you” it should be “Dont give VPN providers enough information TO rat on you”

meaning one of the guys who got a % for every euro I spent on the service - actively and meaningfully supports a national party with policies akin to Nazis. I want as much of my money to go to NOT-Nazis as possible, ideally 100%. So I left Mullvad for… I think it’s airvpn. Or ivpn actually, although I considered airvpn

Unless you fully audited every founder, owner, and staff member at IVPN (Nick Pestell et al.) or AirVPN (Paolo Brini / the activist group behind it), how do you know they don’t hold similar political views or make donations privately to similar effect? I couldnt find anything looking them up and it seems very unlikely they are fascist algigned, but i think you can understand my point here, unless you have an explicit statement from the company, its very possible they could have a closet fascist in the ranks.

I don’t mean to say the posts here are entirely fake, i mean to say the outrage being stoked seems short sighted, While i agree with not wanting my money to support fascist causes, I don’t consider someone’s personal donations or how they spend their money any of their employers business, nor would i want to live in a society where an employer or a business gets to have a say in those things. I read mullvads response, if they had doubled down and defended the guy that would be one thing, but they clearly have to walk a careful tightrope due to a difficult situation that i believe the other founders genuinely did not know about until it came out in the news.

BTW here are the only VPN providers i could find that have openly and explicitly declared anti-fascist beliefs:

NymVPN / " I am proud to be an anarchist against fascism." - Harry Halpin

RiseUpVPN

I wonder what kind of response you’d get if you emailed VPN providers to ask about the personal donation habits or political leanings of their founders, maybe thats a project i’ll take on another day. Probably something worth knowing and keeping public.

he can, I paid using my credit card. He could disclose the list of clients and payments

So you’ve also learned the lesson of not paying with a credit card now right? Otherwise you are just as succeptible with the next vpn you use.

You dont take away the power to by shifting it to some other company which may or may not have less fascists. or some other fasicts (like ones working for the government now) could just as well get the info from your card issuer, or PayPal or whatever gateway you pay with.

know it sounds paranoid but how can you trust a Nazi when your life is on the line?

I don’t trust them, and I am equally untrusting of the payment processors and federal government that’s why I avoid paying for vpn or hosting services with anything connected to a bank account in my name. If you do that then they have nothing to expose.

Would you be okay with your employer or business partner getting to review every political donation you made during their employ or setting restrictions on what you could spend your money on?

I can understand the conflict if the guy was like in a position where he could reveal data about users but thats nowhere close to being the case because the entire company barely keeps any data in the first place

How will you know there isn’t any right wing staff at the next vpn you choose? Seems pretty short sighted.

I want my protection to be such that even if I know the enemy is actively monitoring the network they won’t be able to obtain anything useful. I wouldn’t want to use a service that exclusively targets people just on my side because that makes it easier to narrow down and target.

I would hope that such people would think their own political beliefs and private donations are none of their employers business. I would hope people would pause and think “what happens if this gets flipped on me” if suddenly donating to say anti-fascist causes where to become a fireable offense I bet those same people would be pretty upset

Just seems like very poorly thought out reason for rejecting a service like Mullvad especially given that the company put out a statement that did not defend the donation and distanced themselves from the persons personal views which they most likely didn’t know until well after the check was cashed.

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think there might be a less organic reason why this is being pushed, like maybe Mullvad is difficult for certain agencies to strong arm due to their discouraging of using traditional trackable payment methods and having well secured servers.

The amount of hate on mullvad for what they openly acknowledged was a personal donation from someone who was a founder sure does seem like it’s astroturfing against an otherwise solid vpn provider with a better trackrecord and more transparency then most.

Seems like the Same sort of ppl who would pay for services with a bank card and then be shocked when that links them to an account.

What do these people want? Should Mullvad fire this person? On what grounds? Do people honestly think companies should have a say over what their employees or members spend their personal money on? That seems like a fascist attitude to me.

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