• AggressivelyPassive@feddit.de
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    4 months ago

    To be fair, at least here in Germany, the amount of parking spots for disabled people and the amount of actually disabled people parking don’t really seem to match. There’s often enough a whole bunch of parking spots empty and like one guy on crutches.

    I do get, that planners and regulators need to plan for the “worst case”, and that’s perfectly fine, but the current situation is certainly a bit wasteful.

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      4 months ago

      Might seem a bit controversial but, I think disabled spots should be the more obvious spots, places in front of shops and on the street.

      If you aren’t disabled, you should be parked further away, in something like a multistorey carpark.

      In an ideal world, there would just be less cars.

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        4 months ago

        I always park fairly far away from the building. I’m sure there are people who need to park closer, and I get a little bit more walkies in. Win-win!

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          4 months ago

          Thank you for you work.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        In an ideal world they’re would only be disabled spots and all other would use public transport

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              You think it’s stupid that disabled people have spaces reserved for them because, what, you think you deserve them more? There weren’t enough spaces and you would rather a disabled person suffer the consequences than you? You call it a hive mind when everyone disagrees with you. Had you considered that it might be because lots of folk independently decided that you’re in the wrong, and that occasionally if everyone disagrees with you you should perhaps admit that there’s a possibility that in fact you are in the wrong and everyone else is right. I promise you that there’s no secret disagree with AggressivelypPassive discord.

      • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.de
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        I’m not talking about people taking disabled spots, I’m talking about these spots being empty, because there are not that many people who could use these spots.

        My comment was very clear, but you chose to read what you wanted, because that’s more convenient.

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          To clarify, you used the phrase “amount of actually disabled people parking”. The placement of actually before disabled ties those words together, making the subject “actually disabled person,” which firmly implies (but does not explicitly state) that there is an issue with “fake” disabled people.

          I think you were shooting for “disabled people actually parking,” which means “typical usage by disabled people”

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      So you concede that the people who have built their career around issues like planning for an appropriate volume of handicapped parking should design for less than what they find necessary so that you, a presumably able-bodied person, don’t have to walk past a few more parking spaces?

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        I don’t even have a car.

        I’m 100% sure that these regulations are political, not technical/scientific.

        Some regulatory body decided for political reasons that this percentage of parking spots is required, that’s it. There’s no committee of experts actually evaluating how many spots are needed.

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          So you 100% know this because you sat in on those decisions, or because that is your uninformed opinion? What makes you an authority on parking spot requirements?

          Also if you don’t have a car why do you have an opinion at all?

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          In France, the card that allows you to use disable parking is only given to people who past a medical test proving they cannot walk more than 300 m. My friend with such card will inconvenience many more if there is no such parking spot as their helper will have to let them out at the door of what-ever-the-place-is. As for not using car, they cannot drive any mean of transportation and the helper isn’t in great health its self to carrie them out on some cargo bike even if electric. My friend doesn’t deserved to not to have access to a space because the number of handicap today there was as the statistical expectancy and you don’t want them to block the door for you to access either.