That was one of the biggest tragedies in recorded history. Do you even know what it did to the economy? It was like Black Monday on a 5x multiplier.

The World Trade Center, keyword TRADE. This isn’t pokemon shit, this is real-world stocks and dollars. The portfolios were ruined.

The next time you laugh at that, think about the human beings that had their vacation bonuses decimated that day. Think about how the economic blow made countries like China catch up to us. Just think about that.

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    The worst thing about 9/11 is people want to make it into some kind of conspiracy or terrorist attack. The universe can’t just be a chaotic place where things randomly and arbitrarily happen. Planes can’t crash and it be a totally normal mechanical/atmospheric thing, even though these same people acknowledge that happens multiple times per year. It has to be some Scooby Doo mystery where 19 people “hijacked” planes or the bad guy of the week did it to be evil.

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      9/11 didn’t really happen to america it happened to a bunch of random people. It was bad not even close to the worst thing that has ever happened and in no way justified killing a bunch of random iraqis

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    I would never joke about 9/11 to someone who actually lost friends or family during the event. On an individual level, it really was an unspeakable tragedy and immensely traumatizing for thousands of people.

    But meanwhile the US government will still not apologize for nuking Japan twice, pulverizing primary schools and killing 30x as many people in the blink of an eye. So yeah, on that scale 9/11 is a hilarious joke indeed.

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    Perhaps I haven’t steeped in the irony here long enough, maybe no one here is serious and I’m missing the point. If the joke is civilian deaths, that’s fucked up. Otherwise if it’s about the subsequent hysteria and propaganda, then that makes sense. Just having trouble parsing some of the comments.

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      The joke is that 9/11 was blowback from decades of US meddling in the middle east, especially it’s support for Saudi and it’s actions in Afghanistan. While the specifics weren’t readily predictable a major attack on the US from al-Qaeda or affiliated groups was inevitable. They’d already tried to blow up the WTC once in I want to say 1994. The US then used this blowback to gut it’s own civil rights, re-structure it’s government along more explicitly fascist lines, and launch a totally unrelated war to pillage Iraq that murdered a million people an destabilized the region. The GWOT was used as a blanket excuse for regimes all over the world to pass sweeping new police state powers and suppress or exterminate challenges to their power under the pretense of counter-terror operations. The US officially made torture legal, crushed numerous domestic pro-democracy movements, and diverted trillions of dollars to the MIC.

      Basically the whole situation is so utterly, madness-makingly absurd what can you do except joke about it? It changed the course of the history of the world, touching almost every country in the world, highlighting the naked hypocrisy of The West, strengthening many of The Wests enemies in entirely predictable ways, and slaughtering vast numbers of innocent people totally unrelated to the nominal causus belli. If it hadn’t actually happened you’d only expect to reach about it in something like a Pinchon novel.

      There’s a lot of existentialism, nihilism, and absurdism on the left, given it’s broadly materialist grounding and tendency towards athesim or agnosticism. Humor is one of the main ways to cope with the inherent meaninglessness of existence. Joking about a US tragedy also undermines the power of US propaganda - By mocking the event we deny the religious, sacred significane placed on it by the US’s twisted American Civic Religion.