So yeah title says it all, currently around 8 months into a new hospital position and I’ve been extending my feelers out and doing job apps and got back invites to the start of preliminary interviews for some other jobs (mainly cuss there is likely going to be no significant pay raises for all us new hires until 2 years out so fuck that).
Bring this up to parents though and they have the weirdest attitude as though I’m betraying my company as well as shooting myself in the foot even though if I got some of these positions I’m interviewing for I’d see a huge pay bump and really good benefits (one of them is a state gig and has a damned good pension plan with only 5 years to be vested fully).
The “Old Boys Club” isn’t a profit maximizing decision so we don’t do it anymore.
Yeah I have absolutely no qualms about saying ignore your parents, they’re completely wrong.
Interviewers do not give a fuck about the length of time you stayed anywhere. They care about solely about skills, experience and whether the personality of the person will fit into whatever culture they have going on. What managers actually give a fuck about is whether or not the new hire will make their life easier or harder, if you clearly come across as someone that will make their life easier they will hire you.
one of my boomer relatives always said the best time to start looking for a new job is right after you got hired
A rare example of a boomer being based and not trapped in their shit mentality
We love our good boomers folks
You don’t even really hear “teammates” or “employees” anymore. It’s “associates” and “Individual Contributor”. There is no such thing as a team, we are all just individual and discrete nodes in a collection, but no teams. It’s just so slimey that corporations have utterly sandblasted the very idea of teams away from the modern language. Everything is so individuated even things like workplace safety is your responsibility. To me it really shows how utterly alienated we are at work, even alienated from our work. Job hopping is the logical outcome of making everyone a team of 1.
I have mainly the healthcare perspective on horrid corporate cultures, but yes workplace safety in a hospital is insane especially with the cases of abuse and assault I’ve seen from patients towards healthcare workers, overall that the push towards “picking up extra shifts” and just the combined physical and mentally taxing labor has made me push towards outpatient work cuss fuck getting myself broken by a hospital system that will replace me with a traveler by weeks end if I died.
I think back in their days, staying at a company actually did work out to being paid more whereas it’s flipped these days. I’ve had these same discussions with my boomer parents too.
Boomers are insufferable when it comes to basically anything involving employment.
I’m gonna rant.
Their misplaced loyalty or what I would call “cuckholdery” to their employers is… pathetic. Every employee creates some amount of surplus value which their employer syphons off and calls profit. This is the fundamentals of everything. To he grateful or whatever to the person who steals from you day after day is… well, it’s cuckholdery. No better word for it, imo.
During “their day,” most of them are now retired or nearing retirement very soon, (I’m assuming we are discussing actual boomers ie people in that broad generation from like 1945-1965 or whatever) you could feasibly get a job in 1970, work for 30 or 40 years and retire in 2000 or 2010 with a decent pension. They see staying at a job for decades as normal because it was for them, and maybe it could be normal, but capitalists have made it not the case.
I also generally hate that people in their 60s+ have apparently no fucking concept of inflation and wages and the fact that they have not kept up at all. I’ve legit heard so many boomers and gen Xers whine, in earnest, about “kids demanding $15/hr!” and how ridiculous it is. It’s like, bro. If you make $15/hr almost anywhere in the country, you have to work full time and split bills with someone else to kinda sorta make it and live anything close to a normal life. Like a life where you can afford a week or two off a year to travel somewhere or buy a new phone every couple years or eat out a few times a month. Not exactly luxuries, but boomers act like if you have a cell phone you should stfu and be grateful. As if mobile phones didn’t become essentially mandatory in the last decade. At least the ability to receive calls and texts. You can go without, but again, achieving “normal” is the minimum, imo. And normal at this point means having a phone. Sorry, boomers!
And speaking of inflation, they have no idea how much housing costs relative to wages. Sorry, it Uncle Bob, it isn’t 1967 anymore and houses aren’t $20000 when you make $10000 a year. I’m exaggerating? Google it. MFers could fully pay off a HOUSE in maybe 10 years. That’s crazy. That’s insane. That’s probably how “it should be” if a country insists on treating housing as a commodity. Instead they slowly stretched prices up to force 30 year mortgages and that’s the norm for a few decades now.
Btw, job resumes are bullshit. People don’t think about them much because it seems common sense. They kinda are, but the bullshit part isn’t having your contact info and a few job titles you held in the past. That’s basically fine. Even putting numbers for coworkers or ex-bosses is probably fine to verify people did something. The problem is… the whole “other shit” part of it. How it needs to be formatted in way to tingle the brain of a moron in HR (not sorry HR people- you know what you are. I rip my brother’s HR ass all the time). How people “care” or it’s considered “bad” to take a year off or even years off. Like how you have to explain that. W H Y? Why does any human get to ask and why does anyone have to feel compelled to answer that question? “Because this system sucks donkey cocks and I took a year to chill at my parents and paid them by cutting the grass and cleaning up dog shit. Why the fuck do you care, you’re gonna make as much off me whether I slaved away for that year or not.”
Resumes are absolutely the result of petty-tyrants in HR having far too much influence and I don’t give a shit what anyone says.
Fuck this shit.
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not sorry HR people- you know what you are.
office cops, ACAB includes HR
I honestly believe the “not knowing how much housing costs” thing is the worst boomer trait of them all. Anyone can look up house prices at any time, there’s no excuse for thinking that you can get affordable housing because “I did when I was your age” or whatever bullshit.
It doesn’t help. I had countless arguments with boomers telling me I need to buy somewhere because renting is wasted money. (Omg really? Here I was giving a landlord the best part of a grand a month for a mouldy room in a house made of cardboard because I love the freedom of it. (Idk about that last part but apparently some people see renting as choosing to be free. As if you aren’t contractually bound to pay the landlord for the term whether you stay or leave, but I digress.))
Then I would tell them the house prices and they would say, well that’s affordable, what’s the problem? The problem, mf, is that it seems affordable to you because you already own a fucking house worth the same amount so you are just imagining swapping one house for another rather than trying to buy one with not only zero monies in the bank but negative tens of thousands against your credit score, not to mention that your house might be worth an eye watering amount today but you bought it when they gave them away in raffles.
Feels good to get that off my chest, thanks.
And that’s exactly why I think it’s the worst boomer trait. Some things are hard to compare between now and then, but every form of housing is so vastly more expensive by any measure that to argue otherwise is psychotic. And yet.
They also don’t understand the hellish nightmare that every step of the job hunting process is for neurodivergent people
The slightly younger Xer junior boomers also have no idea how much “open offices” fucking suck for anyone who isn’t a dudebro social parasite that needs to make noise and harass coworkers and subordinates all day.
Every day the noise and lights and constant interruptions/task changing are driving me insane and I’m so fucking drained I can’t jump through all the hoops to look for a new job
I’ll probably just have a massive nervous breakdown and send a resignation after I leave and can’t stop crying for hours
Mood. It doesn’t matter if I sleep 2 or 12 hours, I’m just mentally exhausted by the time I get home.
I know this feeling, and I really hope it doesn’t come to that. I hope you get free and find something that makes you feel fulfilled and cared for.
you’re laughing. You betrayed your company and you’re laughingI figured out 40 years ago that the only way to get any significant pay increase was to hop jobs. Loyalty to the company is a suckers bet, they have zero loyalty to you, you owe nothing to them.
Exactly, I’m tempted to not even do a two weeks notice and instead cashout my PTO and do a personal vacay
This is the way. Give them as much notice as they give workers when they shut down the jobs and kick us to the curb. Fuck the bosses.
I live in Japan, and it’s insane here. I get judged both for changing jobs and spending too much time in deadend ESL jobs with no hope of a promotion. I once got caught off-guard at an interview because it was my first one in 2 years and I’d forgotten that they’d want a reason for why I left a job more than 15 years ago.
That’s fucking insane, 15 years I’d be hard pressed to remember anything really
