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Congratulations comrade, you may now proceed with your Lemmygrad appliaction. We are looking forward to your posts.
I mean I kind of am since I am helping build a new party centered on decolonial Marxism but I don’t think that is what they are talking about
Welcome!
The synthesis:
Imo when you combine the two simcerely you end up with CLR James or Franz Fanon: nationalists with a cautious and ambivalent relationship to nationalism.
Anarchism with Chinese characteristics
lol I like this one because Mao was big on anarchism in his younger years.
Mao confirmed anarkiddy
tankie just means “anyone to the left of me”, exhibit #10392
That person you’re replying to refers to themselves as both an anarchist and socialist, I think their political understanding is non existent
Vaushites
in a nutshell.Last thing she told me was that she was an ‘anarcho-socialist’
Wikipedia page level ideology
i gotta say i literally do not give a fuck if an ML state or anarchism happens first or whatever. I JUST WANT THIS HELL TO BE OVER
That user’s instance defederated with us.
Not because of your exchange but because they thought these posts were serious
I’m doing my part!
How did they not recognize the Grover Iraq pasta. Netizens these days have no appreciation of history.
they thought these posts were serious
No way
pawb.social just stated that they’re “the Furry Community’s hub on Lemmy.” Will someone from their depleted and neoliberal instance please inform them that we too have a Furry Community, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than theirs, and our Furries can shitpost!I’m sorry what’s wrong with those screenshots? I see not a single problem in any one of those screens??? Jokes about Blahaj, the IMF and some other stuff, staying inside Hexbear, is not a reason to defederate at all. Weird.
People having a good time joking among themselves on Hexbear is not disruptive behaviour. It’s not trolling, it’s not disruptive, it’s not harassment or abuse. Are there tankies here? Damn right there are. There are also anarchists, democratic socialists and there’s probably a socdem hiding somewhere that hasn’t yet been bullied too much for being a lib. This is just anticommunism. “Tankie instance” is just “they allow communists”. It’s incredible colony-brained shit, these people need to decolonise their minds.
And even a trot!
(Hi, it me. I’m new here!)
I apologize in advance for all the
memes.
One of the screenshots is literally just someone explaining how our custom emojis work lmao wtf
It has tankie in the name, definitive proof that we are evil.
It’s showing that you guys are communists. Hell, you’re even federated with those awful bigoted tankies over at Lemmygrad!
Noooooo
It was me, I’m the horrible red-fash tankie explaining emojis
Fuckin’ lmao they screencapped one of my comments explaining how emojis work as evidence that we’re tankies
these fuckers just can’t stop lying. how is it possible that so many people keep repeating that we mass-downvote posts when we literally disabled downvotes years before federating
And we upvote people from our own instance 😱 the horror.
Oh damn, look at all those purity tests. The liberals deem us “not left enough.”
because being leftist is all about waving a rainbow flag during pride month but never actually doing anything to improve the material conditions of our LGBTQ+ comrades. That would be too authoritarian apparently.
I’m as left as they come! I would vote for Pete Buttigieg right now if I could!
They’re seriously claiming they defederated with us because they thought “Operation IKEA Freedom” was serious.
Sorry I got us further defederated. I thought that if I was more pro-American, it would appease these anti-tankies.
we’re all tankies down hereI haven’t come across any Anarchist theory that explicitly forbids tanks…
I mean we kind of invented them with the tachanka
Ukrainian anarchist leader Nestor Makhno pioneered the use of the tachanka en masse during the Russian Civil War.
When Ukraine was cool…
“tankie” has become such a pavlovian response to these people that the second they hear it they’ve decided they no longer need to consider anything this person might have to say. Like conservatives the second they hear something is “woke” and they throw a tantrum
It’s kind of brilliant in a way. The brainworms prevent them from ever learning, because all it takes is a single concern troll saying “I think these people might be tankies” and they automatically shut down.
I still flip flop between ML and anarchism to be honest. I’m ML because of climate change time constraints but anarchist in heart.
Really what I care about is improving things. And I will use whatever toolbox seems to be the best option under the conditions in order to achieve that.
I have been converted to third worldism by all the contradictions. Something global historical materialism something super exploitation.
I think third worldism is about to be ripped apart by climate change. We’re going to see a very very rapid destabilisation occur from climate refugee movements numbering in the tens of millions. It took just thousands of Syrian refugees to provoke huge EU destabilisation that led to Brexit, Greece, Italy, far right movements, etc etc… What’s going to happen when the numbers are in the millions is going to blow it out of the water.
This rapid destabilisation is going to create a lot of revolutionary events.
Won’t that just accelerate fascism though? Though I guess you could apply the same argument to the third world as well, in terms of anti colonial nationalism that doesn’t go anywhere.
Yes. But everything that creates revolutionary conditions also accelerates fascism. It will win in some places, but I’m also quite sure that it will lose in others. We can not change the fact that these conditions are coming so we can only figure out what we’re going to do within them.
My belief is that we should be preparing for this situation so that we can act when it comes.
I agree with you there 100%. We need to prepare now
A friend of mine always says “I’m an ML now so I can be an anarchist one day in the future”
that’s a good one
the centrist leftist take
Am I an ML? An anarchist? Who cares, I just wanna grill (the rich)
You joke but I genuinely feel like this most days. If anything is getting done we’re gonna need to team up anyways.
Yeah I would love for it to be possible for us to simply build our new world and show people a better way, but we are running out of time and more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.
“more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.”
Welp, that’s the gotcha for calling you ‘tankie’ according to these people.
Use state measures, and they would treat you as oriental orc with no sense… get crushed by authoritarians and they will publicly worship you while secretly celebrating a progressive defeat towards reaction…
Edit: I’m pro-Nakoichi, just to clarify…
it all depends on whether by “authoritarian” the liberals mean “classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation” or if they simply mean “using violence to bring an end to classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation.” I find that they tend to mean the latter. Hence, I leave it to Engels:
and also, oddly enough, Mark Twain:
Marxism-Leninism is a really good politics for being right about everything. Being right about everything is no fun when you’re losing.
A real anarchist would wholeheartedly believe CIA and fascist propaganda pieces about their ideological enemies.
Fediverse libs only know to say “Tankie!” and cry.
That’s not true. Every once in a while they can be seen eating hot chip too.
tankie has been rhetorically whittled down from its original 1950s CPGB infighting meaning to just a worthless slander against any and all anti-imperialists, regardless of political tendency.
I once saw someone call an anarchist Mastodon instance tankie because someone said something about killing all billionaires
I once described to a liberal friend a dream I had about commandeering a tank, spray-painting the name “Autistic Saudade” on the side, and using it to disperse a neo-nazi rally meant to intimidate refugees and immigrants from “undesirable” countries. My friend said that I “went full tankie on them” and expressed that he was “glad that [I] wasn’t a tankie”.
…What the hell’s that supposed to mean‽ That I’m just supposed to let neo-nazis intimidate refugees without consequence‽
“Tankie” is when the anti-imperialist does stuff, and it’s more tankie the more stuff it does, and if it does a real lot of stuff, it’s redfash.
classic mistake. u see, tankie-ism is when you criticize people who love genocide. hope that helps!
It’s just really funny when like, look at my pfp lol
tbf i think these people think anarchists are tankies
they dont have a concept of what the word actually means
