some projects/ideas i found in the last couple of years, that try to solve our current problem of the internet being a centralized structure that is controllable by big corporations or governments and not so easily usable with mesh technology or when not being connected for long amounts of time

https://scuttlebutt.nz/docs/introduction/

https://ipfs.tech/#why

https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/

https://www.inverse.com/science/39507-mesh-networks-net-neutrality-fcc

https://zeronet.io/

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.gmi

https://geti2p.net/en/

https://redecentralize.github.io/alternative-internet/

https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns

https://netsukuku.freaknet.org/

https://hyperboria.net/

https://urbit.org/

https://agregore.mauve.moe/

https://www.hyphanet.org/

http://libertreeproject.org/

  • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    9 months ago

    Associating with crypto-fraud is a hard no for many users (I am referring to Nostro which was developed by a crypto-bro).

    • PeggyLouBaldwin@lemmy.world
      5·
      8 months ago

      i don’t trust it because it is very big on the design meaning to be “censorship resistant” and there are certain kinds of posts that people make that probably should be censored, and while i like that some tools exist to make pseudononymous, censorship-resistant communications possible (tor and i2p are good. freenet is fine imho), this one looks like a grift that has a neon sign saying “censorship resistant”… and i am sure that associating with those people will lead to encountering some of that material that probably should be censored.

      • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        9 months ago

        Lightning is a terrible protocol. The Lightning devs themselves state that it’s basically unusable and you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars. If you’re bored, check out the history of Lightning; it’s almost like a satire of software development project.

        You’re also being a little disingenuous about the nature of Nostr and it’s relatioship to crypto.

        The “market cap” polemic is a piece of propaganda. If you tried selling all that bitcoin, the price would tank and you would see exponential declines in the “market cap”.

        • chebra@mstdn.io
          3·
          9 months ago

          @Alphane_Moon @makeasnek

          > you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars

          this is true about all of the alternatives too, Lightning is just the only one honest about it. And as someone who’s been using lightning to pay my phone bills, I can say it works ok.

          • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            9 months ago

            You don’t see the problem with a payment system that is fundamentally unreliable?

            Why would you pay your phone bills with lightning? I don’t know which country you live in, but where I lived there are so many easier methods to pay your phone bills.

            • chebra@mstdn.io
              11·
              9 months ago

              @Alphane_Moon You are the one saying it’s unreliable but also you are not using it. Here is someone using it and saying it is reliable ok. Go figure.

              • Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldEnglish
                41·
                9 months ago

                Why would I use a payment system that developers themselves call unreliable? Are you serious?

                I am not even talking about overall usability (i.e. recipient support) and UX/UI…

          • peregus@lemmy.world
            3·
            9 months ago

            millions are still being poured into development efforts

            Millions for development? Do you have any sources? I’d like to read about it. Thanks

      • fernandu00@lemmy.ml
        32·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, if they used monero instead of lightning would be a better option for the user. Not a lightning fan. Layer 2 solutions seems a waste of time and money for me, lightning included…but well, that’s the result of the blocksize war.

          • fernandu00@lemmy.ml
            4·
            9 months ago

            Yeah you’re probably right about that, I’m no expert and this make a lot of sense …I hope to see XMR face this transaction load issue…that would mean more people using it