https://x.com/jonnysocialism/status/1797427375011246320
Average pat"soc" behind closed doors:
Edit: he has now set his Twitter likes to private
Midwestern Marx? Why would anyone want their Marxism to be either “mid” or “western”.
Can we fucking beat the shit out of these scumbags already? I’m tired of them trying to invade our spaces like rats.
There’s a reason they stay online. If they tried to join actual orgs, they would get bashed.
Some of them do try to infiltrate or work with organizations, I’ve seen it happen. If I ever come across one of those pieces of shit, I won’t hesitate to use violence.
Isn’t this guy a member of CPUSA?
Liger is a cpusa member out of Iowa, yes.
This does not appear to be the case
This must be a recent development. I remember discussions in the Iowa cpusa discord over his membership just a couple months ago.
Iowa cpusa discord
This really shouldn’t exist.
I agree, but it does.
These are the kind of people who actually think Nazis are socialists and identify as socialists strictly because of that belief.
“gender ideology” means letting trans people live their lives in peace, we can’t have that now
Just so you all know this guy is a dues paying member of CPUSA, and every time someone brings up kicking him out it gets immediately shutdown.
CPUSA embracing anything but actual communism. Totally doesn’t smell like fed shit.
Agreed
“inform the station chief that the asset has been compromised again.” Jason Bourne theme intensifies while analysts start placing calls
the true successor to the old school is
If the best successor to a ML party we can come up with is a marcyist party that harbors sex pests…well…
It’s actually categorically false that PSL does this, in fact the controversy that you’d likely heard about Stephen Powers was specifically spread widely because of the sexual assault being investigated and found not to have occurred, but him still being permanently suspended from the party because he allowed a messy social situation become a focal point for right wing slander. As someone’s who had to deal with their genuinely frustrating and horrifying share of SA and Sexual Harassmet in “radical” communities, the internal systems set up in PSL genuinely are pretty much everything I could want.
Inside of PSL there’s a national council made up of nonpartisan SA Survivors who address things on a case by case basis. The reality is that when you start to grow people in a space, SA can happen, it’s only whether an organization admits it and addresses it that affects whether it’s actually dealt with or swept under the rug. If you’re pretending it’s not happening in your groups, it’s simply because you’re sweeping it under the rug or your group isn’t large enough; it’s something that happens and needs to be addressed. “Critiquing” PSL because it taking the steps to deal with SA and Harassment has exposed that it happens is unserious.
Edit: Also I think the Marcy thing is just a historical thing? As far as I know everyone is MLs, it’s certainly been the basis of decision making that I’ve interacted with anyway.
Good thing neither of those describe PSL
Watched him a bit on tiktok until I saw him buddy up with Jackson Hinkle (and a few other cringe takes that elude me at the moment). After that, he went full on “we need to be friends with ‘MAGA communists’”, talking shit about how the alt-right actually isn’t so bad and can be totally saved easier than your average lib. Blocked him on everything months ago and it appears I was correct to do so.
Yeah, I became aware of him on tiktok during the pandemic and only saw a few videos of him defending the DPRK so I figured he wasn’t that bad. Cut to years later and he’s just a chud with a different set of paint
He got to a couple people from RBN on that wave too and lemme tell you cutting THEM out of my intake hurt
My brain isn’t on yet, what is RBN?
Revolutionary Blackout Network, used to be one of the places I kept my fingers on the pulse at.
Tovarish!
Cleanse your mind from this fascist filth!
I’m not very surprised. He’s aligned with Jackson Hinkle.
https://nitter.poast.org/MidwesternMarx/status/1435038558717419525
I had to look up what a fancam is
Should rename his account to national socialism
He recently claimed that he “accidentally” followed a twitter account that was dripping with fash imagery that had something like Daughter of Il Duce in their bio as well.
How many coincidences are we going to see before maybe it stops being a coincidence, Edward?
**Edit: Receipts (also you can see how my memory is a little patchy on these details because I didn’t pay close attention since I’m not about to closely study and memorise something which was very on-brand for Eddie imo)
Fucking yikes
I never like dealing with these guys. If the whole “The dumbest outcome is the most likely outcome” thing is true, they’ll inevitably end up parasitizing any serious socialist project that emerges in the 'states.
Hey, what if we did socialism, but kept everything that made american culture fucking insufferable and all the attendant problems
they’ll inevitably end up parasitizing any serious socialist project that emerges in the 'states.
Don’t worry, there’s no possibility of this. This movement is run entirely by grifters and feds who have no interest the very difficult work of actually building organizations. While PYM and put on the People’s Conference for Palestine in Detroit and brought in 3600 organizers on explicitly ML terms, the PatSocs put on a parallel event in Detroit that drew a whopping 60 people.
Not to mention the fact that they can exclusively recruit gullible white boys while the multinational working class is going to real organizations.
Yeah, in terms of realistic outcomes they’re just kind of a extension of the LaRouchites and unlikely to gain any serious ground by dint of fundamentally misreading how deep the american conservative’s anticommunist bent runs. You cannot get to them in any way if you’re calling yourself communists