Nowadays quoting the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany (Grundgesetz) is for most people totally antifascist and radical…
And usually my reaction is “bro did you ever checled what happened so we enforced that law…?”
learned empathy when my sister stepped on a belt buckle I carelessly left on the floor. I still remember her screaming in pain and try to think of consequences of my own actions to others. childhood lessons
I am a Scottish derived Redneck, utilitarianism is in my blood the current systems rarely deliver particularly good utility towards the common man so I hate it. Now imagine how much worse I got when I learned of what happened at Blare Mountain? To say my hatred and bloodlust are rather extreme would be an understatement, I wish to build a new mountain range from the corpses of corporate dogs and their fool defenders.
Also I value culture and see how the current systems strip it down for profit, which I consider to be the start point for the philosophical death of mankind.
Paying attention.
The world is on fire while the Epstein class diddles.
Empathy is weakness to the most fragile little boys with insanely huge egos and a rapacious need to hurt everyone and anyone for a nickel.
kids, if you see a billionaire, run. they are most likely a pedophile 😱
thinking raping children isn’t the best makes you a terrorist by definition.
the government decides who a terrorist is, so the word has no meaning
your mom decides who she thinks is hot so the word has no meaning and I don’t have to reconsile my immensely negative self image with the idea that I could be wanted by another human being.
false equivalence
you can’t be tortured for years and even decades because someones mother thinks you’re hot
I can absolutely torture myself about it! don’t tell me what I can or can’t feel!
I suppose this is a better way to put it. The more I learn about things the more angry I get. :( but it’s not that I’m changing, it’s that so many things are done for profit consequences be damned, or bigotry and racism.
Gross.
Agreed, the last few points are the product of indoctrination; and at least for the ‘profit’ part, capitalism is the problem.
The problem of indoctrination runs deep, that even bigotry can be seen within leftist areas (lemmy for example). Sexism, ageism and racism is just the tip of the iceberg.
yeah. I think doing stupid awful things with terrible side effects that won’t really work when you have better options is bad.
I like books. I think thinking helps you make good decisions.
I’m too radical for the local communists.
I didn’t cross the line of extremism. The extremism line crossed over me.
Soon…
I didn’t cross the line of criminality. The criminal line crossed over me.
Our world today must have been as hard to imagine as it is to imagine the world centuries ago. Like the entire concept that Leviticus and Exodus stated that it was wrong to accept interest on a loan. Martin Luther even tried to keep that up when Calvin split off in the early 1500s. So that’s like a 3000 year period from Leviticus to Calvinism that capitalism just couldn’t exist the way it does today. Every business and many of the shackles on society are tied to interest rates.
How empathy came to be seen as a weakness in conservative circles
(Musk and Rogan warning)
Fuck, that was a depressing read. :(
Oof, right in your feels.
I’ve thought about this question for over 10 years and I’ve had many answers. The most consistent answer throughout the years has been simply listening
I’m a quiet person and people generally notice that I’m a good listener. This somehow makes me the unexpected therapist. People just tell me what’s truly in their hearts and on their minds. Sometimes they don’t even notice they are saying what they are saying and it catches themselves off guard. They talk, I listen. What people don’t realize is that I remember too…
I’ve heard so many stories. Rejection, manipulation, poverty, hate, sexual violence, war and the list goes on
The gift of making people feel heard and the curse of remembering all their stories
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Case in point: this image is basically pure text, but in a form unperceivable to people who need actual text.
No empathy there.
Empathy truly is radical: far easier to proclaim than to universally practice.Those who react with hostility when lapses in empathy are pointed out likely have a special deficiency in empathy: they need to self-reflect & take inventory of themselves.
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I mean you can point it out without acting like a cockweasel.
Hostility biased to construe a forthright criticism maliciously for not being ingratiating to your standards demonstrates an insecurity more concerned with saving face rather than consideration for points others make, so it’s not particularly empathetic or enlightened, and it’s somewhat entitled. A just person cares more about doing what is right than in satisfying their ego even when it seems to cost them and goes unappreciated. Their acts are an unusual wonder & in the scheme of humanity radical.
Put the thesaurus down buddy.
Another superficial style over substance fallacy: you argue over style rather than address substance. As remarked earlier, such cheap, emotionally-stunted tactics for a superficial, self-centered mind aren’t a great argument for empathy.
Same advice as before: self-reflect, take personal inventory.
Earlier remarks stand.
no consideration, certainly. no word on empathy content.
‘empathy’ does not mean kindness or virtue or caring. it is a specific narrow thing that, as demonstrated, has limited utility without other virtues. think of it like cinnamon. goes in a lot of things, more than you’d think but not all, and kind of garbage on its own.
True dat.
People have intellectual empathy. They know what they’re supposed to feel. They know how you feel. That’s how they know how to manipulate or abuse you.
There’s something about people that’s missing the part where they care.
You’re very smart. Well done.
This is the story about liberals everywhere thanks for sharing.
Where I am, liberals stand for “liberal economy” and are full blown capitalists with little empathy. I’d say it applies more to socialists.
Fun Fact: Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. It is simply not possible to experience empathy and hold conservative views simultaneously.
An inability to experience empathy is why bigotry comes so easily to a conservative. It’s why cruelty comes so easily to a conservative. It’s why they accuse empathetic people of “making it up” or being weak. Their inability to experience empathy is at the core of their attacks on the empathetic, using epithets like “being woke” to describe them.
The inabilty to experience empathy is why conservatives’ relationships are so shallow. Deep personal connections require empathy. This is why they see their family as property rather than humans. A conservative “loves” their spouse and child the way a teenager loves a sports car. Ownership is a strong emotion, but it is not deep. An attack on their family is an attack on their property, not humans they love. In fact, a conservative will almost never say “I love you” because it’s simply not accurate.
Conservatives are not brainwashed or tricked into being cruel. They simply cannot experience empathy. This is why they will never change. They will never have some epiphany and suddenly become kind and reasonable. They will always be a threat to the empathetic as they are genuinely disgusted by empathy.
If you suspect your conservative family, friends or neighbors hate you, it’s likely because you are empathetic toward them. They deeply distrust empathy and will never be comfortable around it.
It can be a temporary thing, or result from trauma. It is an evolutive advantage for a population for it’s people to have empathy. On an individual level, it has a cost so when an individual is in survival mode, they will let go of empathy.
Artificial scarcity and intentionally putting oneself in scarcity situation (ex: putting all your economies towards starting a business) makes it more likely one will lose their capacity for empathy.
Very interesting angle. I have spent decades trying to understand why conservatives are so consistently unable to experience empathy, including why they so often attempt to hide this trait. So far, the most evidence I can find points to physiological sources, with measurable correlations between air/water pollution levels and density of conservative populations.
But, I also suspect socioeconomic conditions are relevant as well. I’ve just had trouble finding any measurable correlations at scale. I think this is a lack of directed research issue, though. If you have any suggested reading on your angle, I would love to follow that path where it leads. I would also love to find more behavioral correlations as they might imply conservatism or distinct lack of empathy is something that can be addressed sub-generationally.
Obviously correlation doesn’t imply causation, but very little research is aimed at this. So as a little solo hobby, I’ve got to look for leads somewhere.
Unfortunately, I think this is mostly a personal observation, but one about which I can’t find anyone who disagree.
Even conservatives will agree, but all the while thinking it’s good to put themselves in scarcity situation, thinking it will force them to pull themselves by the bootstraps and make them grow/get better.
Edit: off course it’s a multi factor thingy though… Lead pollution has been shown to affect mental states, and everyone starts with a different innate susceptibility to empathy.
I agree it’s likely multi-factor. Your observation seems to fit as well. There’s likely no silver bullet answer, but understanding the likely contributors may help future generations mitigate this problem.
Ur copypasta is dumb as hell. And u are literally not even a smidgeon better/smarter than KKK members that say that all blacks are evil. You are literally using the same generalizations. Blocked.
Copypasta? Copied from what? Reality? 😆 I’d invite you to read my comment history before getting bent out of shape, but judging by your conservative-level grammar, I’d wager reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. Byeeee! 😄
Empathy is complex. There is nothing basic about it, nor does anyone enjoy the presumption that people shall be empathetic.
