This is interesting, but it does seem to not totally substantiate the claim. Sounds like it all hinges on the claims of one woman who showed up in the ambulance of a company that doesn’t operate anymore and claimed that one guy had a broken spine who then later just walked out. Plus, the article says the videos were tagged as shot two days before the event, so the evidence she shared publicly was likely not even taken at the actual site of interest.

This article makes it sound exaggerated at best to me. I’m sure bad things are happening to drive conscription, but that doesn’t mean this instance in particular is true as stated by the woman. I’m open to looking at a different source, but yeah, this one is not conclusive evidence in my opinion.

Ohhhh they are not going to accept Aljazeera as a legit source, guaranteed.

Asking for a good source should not get this reaction. I understand the apprehension given how often its just a screen for some bloodthirsty lib to post pinnocios about anything that isn’t approved by the US state department, but at least wait until they do that. This instinctive reaction just discourages the broader userbase from asking to be further educated.

You’ve got a guy openly looking for a quality source on it, and instead of helping solidify the truth, you’d rather be a wise ass. I’d argue that’s worse than doing nothing. It feels good to get smug, sure, but having faced those responses many times myself when trying to find proof of such claims, it does the exact opposite of helping. Coming from the outside, it feels a lot more like it’s probably bullshit when you get belittled for wanting to learn more.

My “local western regime” media had it covered: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/demonstration-amsterdam-israel-100.html

However, they also covered the OPs story, but came to the conclusion it’s fabricated and the protests etc were staged: https://www.tagesschau.de/faktenfinder/ukraine-angebliches-foltergefaengnis-100.html

btw this local media outlet is one of many funded by a fee every household has to pay. the reason is, so they can be independent and can criticise the regime or rich/influential ppl without fear of financial retaliation.

Fact-check: the Kyiv “secret torture prison” claims

This post combines documented historical abuses with unverified claims about a recent incident. The historical abuses deserve serious attention, but they do not prove that the viral story about a “secret prison” near Kyiv was true.

On 2 November, a crowd gathered at a building used by a National Guard unit after claims spread online that dozens of people were being held and tortured there. Four servicemen were injured and received medical care. The building was being used as temporary accommodation for servicemen, including some who had gone absent without leave. Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation opened a separate case into possible abuse of authority by military officials, including the conditions in which the servicemen were kept and possible coercion. That investigation matters: the available reporting does not establish that all mistreatment allegations were false. [1][2]

But the post presents much more than that as settled fact. The claims that 40 people were held in a torture dungeon, that someone had died, and that the 14-year-old was “freed” from a prison were not substantiated in the reporting I found. The Kyiv Independent reports that the boy came with the crowd and fell from a fence; it says false posts portrayed him as a rescued prisoner. [3] The woman who presented herself as a paramedic was arrested, but an arrest is not proof of guilt. Claims that another medic received death threats also need a source; this post gives none.

The claim about Budanov saying “there are many such places” is also misleading as presented. Reports describe him referring to numerous similar temporary military accommodation sites—not admitting that Ukraine has a network of secret torture prisons. [2]

The post’s historical claim about Mariupol airport is seriously distorted. OHCHR documented arbitrary detention and torture or ill-treatment at the airport, which was used by Ukrainian forces, the Security Service of Ukraine and some volunteer battalions. It recorded 21 individual cases there and said hundreds of detainees may have been held there. The figure of roughly 1,500 in the report is an estimate for victims of torture or ill-treatment by all Ukrainian government actors across the report’s geographic and 2014–2021 scope—not 1,500 people tortured or killed at Mariupol airport. The report does not say that 1,500 people were killed there. [4]

There is also a distinction between who started the unrest and who amplified the story. Ukrainian officials suspected outside influence, but the Kyiv Independent reported that there was no hard evidence at that point that Moscow had instigated the incident. Its reporting describes Russian-linked accounts and media rapidly amplifying the claims and adding false details. That supports “the story was exploited in a disinformation campaign”; it does not, by itself, prove Russia organized the original event. [3]

So the careful conclusion is: real injuries, serious questions about military conduct, and an official investigation—alongside viral claims about dozens of tortured hostages and a rescued child that were not substantiated. Past Ukrainian abuses are documented and should not be dismissed, but they do not establish that the allegations in this particular post are true. Nor does calling the incident a Russian operation settle the question of what happened inside the building.

Sources

State Bureau of Investigation opened proceedings into possible abuse of authority (UNN)
Euronews: What happened near Kyiv as viral allegations sparked unrest
Kyiv Independent fact-check: How the clashes fueled a Russian disinformation blitz
OHCHR report on arbitrary detention, torture and ill-treatment in eastern Ukraine
Suspilne’s initial on-the-scene reporting
Ukrainska Pravda’s account of the servicemen’s injuries, based largely on an interview with their commander

Why don’t you go volunteer for Ukraine if you think the war is worth neonazi pressgangs forcibly conscripting children to die at the front?

Hey, quick question, what is the ethnicity and language do all the people who actually had a war fought over them and had their homes destroyed are and speak? Where did the people from those regions actually flee to?

The more horrible shit comes out about the actions of the Ukranian regime, the more this sentiment starts to come across like a serial killer telling the police to mind their own business and stay away from his shed.

The west could’ve not instigated a nazi coup.
But here we are.

Ethic cleansing. Sounds above board to me.

to be fair, the US just started very recently, while the russians are years deep in.

with any luck the US will surrender soon, but it’s also possible they will start occupying land. however, i personally consider their naval military presence at the strait a form of occupation, but i understand if others don’t.

That’s not fair! You’re not allowed to use measurable metrics to compare the two, that’s devastating to that guy’s point!