• Korne127@lemmy.world
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    It’s funny how many people online use VS Code. But I’ve heard that this might be a US thing. Here, everyone uses the JetBrain products (which are far superior imo).

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      To be fair, there’s a big difference.

      VS Code is a text editor / IDE. Compared to something like Notepad++, it’s super slow to open/load, its UI feels laggy at times, and it’s just overkill for opening a text file. Compared to specialized log viewers, it struggles with large files and is generally super slow.
      But compared to “full” IDEs like IntelliJ, it’s marginal in coding features, lacking important analysis and testing support, plus integrations with ~everything.

      If you find yourself in the middle, like many JS developers do, not actually needing the biggest IDE but also needing more than just a text editor, it’s a fine tool. As a Java Backend Dev, VS Code feels like a joke if applied to that, OTOH.

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        it’s super slow to open/load, it’s UI feels laggy at times, and it’s just overkill for opening a text file.

        Because it’s a webbrowser in disguise. The most complex and inperformant GUI rendering system in existence.

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        Honestly, vscode opens in a split second for me, faster than I can react and start typing. For all intents and purposes it is instantaneous. Granted my setup is extremely clean and I only have the barest extensions installed for my workflow. The performance is consistent in my Windows, macOS and Linux machines.

        I can’t imagine it running slow at all (perhaps someone with hundreds or thousands of extensions would). The last two editors I could recall that took the whole of eternity in the time space continuum to load were Eclipse and Atom. And those were slowass right out of the gate with zero extensions or plugins.

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        People should use with whatever they feel comfortable with, but I personally don’t see the advantage. I used VSCode once for simple edits of something and it worked, but I couldn’t imagine really using it for a project due to the lack of… everything. The whole support of the JetBrains products from the smart autocompletion, pointing out errors in advance, to improving your code, is insane, and with VSCode, you don’t have that.
        I also once had a small project with two people using PyCharm and one VSCode and the differences in the code style were insane. Of course that depends on the person, but it’s just much easier to obey all the style guidelines and write cleaner code with the former one.

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      I have a full JetBrains sub paid out for five years. I have dropped JetBrains for VS Code because I got tired of switching editors for everything and dealing with a Java-centric setup when I tried to streamline. Their decision to drop community Rust support in favor of only paid more recently also doesn’t sit well with me, especially given the PyCharm setup.

      I swore up and down I would never leave Sublime for JetBrains.

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        Man I use IntelliJ for:

        • python
        • Jupyter notebooks
        • node, typescript
        • html
        • YAML/TOML
        • sql
        • testing
        • ReST
        • Docker
        • bash
        • cloud formation
        • terraform
        • lua
        • groovy, kotlin, and also java
        • maven, gradle, spock
        • linting, code formatting, dependency management, db connectors & browsing, live templates, refactoring, code analysis, fantastic git operations, local history, testing, etc

        Support for most of this stuff is just built in, and a few plugs for the rest. In-line embedded sql execution, best git merge tools, everything has customizable key commands… it goes on and on. The amount of config and plugs this requires in other tools is insane.

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      The right tool for the right job. I use both, depending on what task I have.

      This goes for most things in tech - there’s no one best language, there’s only really a best language for any given job.

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          Yeah, used to do a lot of the latter for server-side stuff and Android and of the former for iOS, but in the last couple of years been doing game programming so that’s VSCode because it’s C# with Unity.

          Way back when I started doing it professionally it was Emacs, vi and even notepad depending on what I was doing.

          They’re just tools and only worth it to hyperspecialize in them if you only do one thing your whole career.

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        Depends heavily on the market segment. I also work in Europe and in my 15 years as a software developer (the first 6-7 as C/C++ developer) I’ve never seen anyone use Visual Studio.

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        It massivelly depends on whether it’s for programming or something else (such as sys admin work) and which language (and even for which framework) if the former.

        If you’re doing, say, Java programming for server side or Android, VS and VSCode are far from good choices, but they’re perfect if you’re doing C# .Net stuff.

        However if you’re doing sys admin work (including the programming part of it) you’re probably better of mastering vim or Emacs (if only because at times in some systems it’s all you have).