• Ava@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    “This would drive up costs to customers” is always fun when it talks about a human component of the cost, because it’s pretty transparently saying they’re currently relying on worker exploitation.

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      On the other Hand. Local Retailers could get better and cheaper alternatives again. Or you just use other Online Stores here in Germany Amazon is almost never the cheapest.

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        I suspected you might be German before you even mentioned the Country because Germans have a common Tell when they write. Please understand I find this cute and delightful and hope you aren’t offended. I hopefully have given you no Reason to be. :)

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          This is perfect, you made my day. I had to read this 5 times until I finally understood the tell. This seems so normal when your native language is German.

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            I host a forum for an opensource game that’s been around since the 90s. The original developer was German, so there is a bit of extra German around, although it’s truly international by now. In addition to the capitalization thing, I’ve noticed that they tend to be… rather direct compared to American culture, which is itself often a little more direct that, say, UK culture. lol.

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      On Monday, Mr. Mamdani is scheduled to announce that he backs the Delivery Protection Act, a measure pending before the City Council that is aimed at regulating the “last-mile” operations of Amazon, FedEx and other distribution companies. It would require them to hire delivery workers rather than relying on contractors.

      The most important part

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      Kagi Ai Summary:
      A Fight Brews Between Mamdani and Amazon Over Delivery Workers details the escalating conflict regarding the labor practices of major delivery companies in New York City. Mayor Zohran Mamdani has officially endorsed the Delivery Protection Act, legislation designed to regulate the last-mile operations of corporations like Amazon and FedEx. The proposed measure aims to compel these companies to hire delivery workers directly instead of relying on third-party contractors. Proponents argue that the current subcontracting model allows corporations to bypass essential regulations concerning minimum pay and employee benefits. Mamdani contends that this shift is necessary to ensure accountability and protect both workers and the communities impacted by distribution facilities. However, the bill faces significant opposition from companies like Amazon, who argue that the regulation will increase costs for consumers and cause delays in package deliveries. Critics of the legislation also warn that these rules could force firms to relocate their distribution hubs outside of the city. Such a move would potentially result in the loss of thousands of local jobs. The debate highlights the tension between the modern consumer demand for rapid delivery and the push for stronger labor protections in a gig-dependent economy.

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            Is just straight up copy paste less lazy?

            On the streets of New York City, thousands of workers hustle to deliver nearly one billion packages a year. Now, a high-stakes battle that could force Amazon and other big delivery companies to take full responsibility for those workers has reached a turning point.

            Mayor Zohran Mamdani is throwing his support behind the union-backed legislation that is at the core of that battle. On Monday, Mr. Mamdani announced that he backs the Delivery Protection Act, a measure pending before the City Council that is aimed at regulating the “last-mile” operations of Amazon, FedEx and other distribution companies. It would require them to hire delivery workers rather than relying on contractors.

            “Corporations like Amazon build billion-dollar business models by insulating themselves from accountability through a system of exploitative subcontracting,” Mr. Mamdani said in a statement. He called the Council bill “common-sense regulation that protects delivery workers, safeguards the communities where these facilities operate and ensures that the corporations benefiting from workers’ labor are responsible for the consequences of their business practices.”

            The campaign to regulate the last-mile operations is playing out in a city in which consumers are enthralled with delivery to their doorstep, often within hours of placing an order online.

            Global distribution companies save money by using contractors to provide the labor needed to get packages from their distribution networks to customers. That model allows the companies to avoid regulations regarding minimum pay and benefits that would apply if they employed those workers, supporters of the measure argue.

            The bill’s opponents — including Amazon — counter that the measure would drive up the costs of delivery to consumers while slowing the arrival of packages. And they warn that it could force Amazon to move its distribution hubs out of the city to evade the new rules, eliminating thousands of local jobs.

            Amazon has marshaled a coalition of business groups, including chambers of commerce and the Real Estate Board of New York, to oppose the legislation. Union officials estimate that Amazon has spent more than $5 million on an opposition campaign that includes TV ads. A study commissioned by an Amazon-funded group found that the regulations could increase the cost of delivery by as much as $5.20 per package, or $664 annually per household.

            “We’re committed to creating good jobs, supporting our thousands of employees and local small business partners in New York City, and providing fast, reliable delivery for New Yorkers,” said Kelly A. Nantel, a spokeswoman for Amazon. “But as written, this legislation would directly undermine that commitment — threatening the small businesses that deliver to customers, putting the jobs of more than 5,000 of their employees at risk and forcing us to consider relocating delivery operations outside of the city.”

            If the legislation passes and Mr. Mamdani signs it, New York could become the first city in the United States to regulate these last-mile operations, according to the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, which has been lobbying for the bill. The delivery workers in New York start at about $20 an hour, and, Amazon said, average close to $24 an hour. The Teamsters reached a deal with an Amazon contractor in California to pay about $30 an hour.

            “We’re in a new era of politics in the five boroughs, one where workers and their advocates are in the driver’s seat,” said Thomas Gesualdi, president of Teamsters Joint Council 16.

            Eric Blanc, an assistant professor of labor studies at Rutgers University, said that the bill would be “a great fight for the administration to pick” because it pits “young Black and brown working-class New Yorkers against Jeff Bezos,” the billionaire founder of Amazon.

            Mr. Blanc, who studies union organizing efforts, said that by supporting low-paid delivery workers against one of the nation’s biggest employers, Mr. Mamdani is demonstrating his willingness to spend political capital for workers beyond “just showing up at the picket line.”

            Mr. Mamdani, who was elected with the backing of the Democratic Socialists of America, has spoken at several rallies of unionized workers and walked picket lines with striking nurses and Starbucks employees. But the delivery protection bill could be the first major test of his willingness to take on big corporate interests on behalf of low-paid workers. Editors’ Picks

            With his statement of support, the mayor signaled that he was ready to confront one of the world’s most profitable industries over a practice that it has spent significant sums to defend.

            The bill, sponsored by Tiffany Cabán, a councilwoman from Queens, has drawn more than 30 co-sponsors.

            Jumaane Williams, the public advocate, testified at a hearing of the Council’s Committee on Consumer and Worker Protection in April and said the measure could help to ensure that delivery workers’ rights to organize are protected.

            “Companies that bust unions and skirt labor laws like Amazon will no longer be able to hide behind subcontractors and will be held liable for any and all violations,” Mr. Williams said.

            Luc Rene, 27, who has driven Amazon vans for nearly four years, works from a depot in Queens that the Teamsters organized last year. He said that he delivers as many as 400 packages a day. But he said that when he has asked for a lighter load during a heat wave or after a snowstorm, the contractor he works for has told him that Amazon wouldn’t allow it. The contractor whom Mr. Rene identified as his employer, DNA Logistics, could not be reached for comment.

            Amazon did not address Mr. Rene’s allegations specifically but said that the company regularly adjusts drivers’ routes to account for inclement weather.

            Some Amazon contractors said that the city could wind up hurting delivery workers more than helping them.

            Rudy Cazares, who owns companies that deliver in the city for Amazon and FedEx, said that although his employees wear uniforms bearing the names of those brands, those companies do not decide whom he hires and fires and promotes.

            “It’s very easy to say it’s workers against big corporations and that Amazon is the big bad wolf here,” Mr. Cazares said. But he said the city is full of small businesses like his that are key to the distribution industry.

            Mr. Cazares’s company, Cazar Logistics, is a member of the New York Delivers Coalition, which is led by Amazon. Amazon also funded a group called Five Borough Jobs Campaign, which commissioned a study by the consulting firm AKRF that calculated the potential consequences of the bill for the city’s economy. The study said that the bill “would destabilize the city’s delivery ecosystem” and suggested that its impact would fall disproportionately on lower-income communities.

            The consulting firm estimated that 83 percent of the “last-mile facility” workers live in boroughs other than Manhattan and that about 80 percent of them are minorities.

            “I believe what’s at stake is thousands of local jobs,” said Christine Chan, who owns a Harlem company that uses cargo bikes to deliver about 5,000 packages a day in Manhattan for Amazon. She said that her company, Highgate Logistics, had about 175 workers making about $20 an hour and “plenty of applicants.”

            Her message to the Council: “You’re betting that Amazon is going to employ these people directly. I’ll take the other side of that bet.”

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    A study commissioned by an Amazon-funded group found that the regulations could increase the cost of delivery by as much as $5.20 per package, or $664 annually per household.

    This is such bullshit. There is no reason that it has to cost more for the customer, it only means Amazon makes less profit. Jeff Bezos could simply make slightly less income, and it might mean it will take an extra year or two to reach trillionaire status.

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      Or, alternatively, stop fucking using Amazon and go to the store? Like I don’t get how that’s a debate.

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        Folks can have a problem with going out in public.

        I get severe anxiety around other people and deal with bipolar episodes.

        While I do suck it up, mainly cause money is tight, we shouldn’t be grudging the people who aren’t strong enough to suck it up.

        Some folks aren’t built like that. In fact, no one person is built the same. There is and will always be something different about all of us.

        Just ask yourself this. Would you want to be forced into a situation where you didn’t want to do something because it hurts you mentally? Then, someone wanted to take away the one thing that helped you with that thing? Wouldn’t you feel beaten down and like you don’t matter?

        Is that the world we want for each other? None of us matter to one another? Nobody is important? We’re all main characters now, and if I can do it, you can do it to type of people?

        Not me brother. I’d much rather live in a world where anything can be delivered to your house if it means folks can live a more peaceful life. All we want is these rich fucks to not be so goddamn evil.

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        In NYC, many people use Amazon’s Whole Foods Delivery. It’s a LOT cheaper than Trade Fair or Key Foods, and they bring it right to your house. So 100 deliveries a year is every 3-4 days, not that weird.

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      Same shit a lot of places do, calling people who do the final stage of delivery contractors instead of employees so they can get away with paying them less and not providing benefits, and if they get in an accident delivering it’s on them not the company.

      Amazon and other companies argue that if they had to actually claim those employees who only deliver their packages all day as their employees and give them benefits and deal with any insurance issues due to collisions they would have to charge customers more.

      Because while they make insane amounts of profit, they will never put that at risk and will instead just pass all costs to the consumers. Because they are soulless parasites who sustain themselves by sucking all money and life force from everyone they can.

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    Mandani is just straight up doing what every single city, state and what the Fed itself would do if it cared more about the people than enriching investors and friends. It becomes extremely clear when you see him passing little laws like this what capitalists have been doing to regular people while creating a new ruling class of billionaires.

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      After years of politicians telling us everything is totally impossible, it turns out there’s this button on the Mayor’s desk that says Do Something Good, and when you press it, something good happens. So Mamdani just keeps pressing it.

      That button has always been on that desk, and it’s been on the desks of every politician, forever. So why haven’t they been pressing it?

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    Why is no ones first thought, fine I’ll just stop using Amazon? Is everyone so addicted to bezos’ teat that they can’t imagine going to the store?

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      Amazon has done much to eliminate it’s competition. We used to have Radio Shack, Fry’s, and Toys R Us, and Barnes & Noble, lost of small businesses, etc, now most or all of that is gone and we have Amazon, Wal-mart or other similarly bad company, and a few random small business that might not fit your needs.

      Sometimes when I have tried to avoid Amazon by going directly to the company, I find that they sell through Amazon anyways. Amazon needs to be split up by the government. These companies have intentionally made themselves too big and diverse to effectively boycott.