“I’m saying it right now,” Homan said. “There’s still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth and let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted.”

DHS has acknowledged that neither of the men who have been shot in recent weeks was the target of the ICE operations that led to their deaths.

A witness reported that Guerrero shouted, “I tried to stop” after being shot by an agent while his vehicle moved forward slowly.

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    Trump’s pardons are not global. They can still be extradited for murdering one of their citizens.

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    Turns out the bloodshed also continues if we say/do nothing about it too, so we may as well say/do something about it anyway.

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    Openly admitting to being killers, not allowing free speech, telling to “shut their mouth”, down hard in the polls, and doubling down with threats of rigging the elections.

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    Welcome to the new reality. The United States is a fascist country. It will be a fascist country for the foreseeable future. Face it and prepare.

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      Exactly as the great orange turd said it would be. The one single thing he has said that has been 100℅ true.

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    This guy is a criminal no different than some loose nutcase murderer who kills people at random to vent his frustration. He needs to be kept in solitary confinement for life.

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    Comply or we’ll do exactly what we are going to do regardless. Iran figured out how to play this game. When will Democrats?

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    I guess, literally, he probably means that if Democrats do not allow ICE to deport criminals, potential murderers, & rapists, then there would be bloodshed by those criminals who could have been deported if ICE had not been thwarted. In other words, the people who might harm others & could have been removed from the country would still remain here committing crimes.

    However, in light of recent events involving ICE shooting at what appears to me to have been an anxious, bad female driver, the statement sounds much worse/more-ominous/baleful.

    P.S. I do not like masked government officials, even if there are people associated with groups like ANTIFA who are willing to murder over this issue. However, I would rather be able to hold government officials accountable. If an ANTIFA member murders someone, they should go to jail, just like an ICE agent should go to jail if they murder someone.

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      You want to hold us accountable? We’re going to murder even harder.

      Now that’s what I call a bold strategy.

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        I know you were calling on the meme and this isn’t against you, but I have to say it’s anything BUT bold. It’s a coward’s strategy.

        “More wrong and harder” is the weak way out of having a critical light shone on one’s choices. To most of us it’s no big deal, but to these guys – who know far better than we do the truth of what they are doing – it’s ego death and frightening as hell.

        Is it easier to stand up and take responsibility for all the evil you have done, or to pull a bit of metal on the gun you’re holding a fraction of an inch, in order to kill an unarmed person trying desperately to go on living when you confront them with your own will and means to murder them, knowing that afterward your fellow ICE sociopaths will high-five you like it’s something to be proud of?

        For those of us with working consciences, that question only gets answered one way.

        For the rest, that’s a personal profile of every single serving member of ICE. They already know they’re not “defending” jack shit and that immigrants are no danger at all. If they were, ICE would not be shooting at them, because ICE goons regularly run from conflict, as Tom Homan is demonstrating right now, and as they all prove when people whip out cameras and start shouting loud enough.

        These sociopaths RUN from accountability. They signed up for the opportunity to get paid to play The Most Dangerous Game all day every day, they’re glad to do it, and the ones who have any shred of conscience/humanity left in themselves are being eaten alive by it, as they should be.

        And Tom Homan is upset that people who do have working consciences are calling bullshit on the whole thing. He’s so scared of real accountability that he has equated words with physical danger, lol.

        That’s not bold. That’s weakness. A fucking snowflake in a skin suit who could never personally bear even a fraction of the suffering he readily metes out to others.

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          Probably pretty well, lol. Americans have demonstrated that they are willing to put up with this shit

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            I keep seeing this take, but it’s hardly uniquely american though. Human societies will put up with a lot as long it means they don’t have to leave their comfort zone.

            It’s why the chinese put up with their party dictatorship, they live in relative comfort. We might see more resistance coming from russian society now because they are starting to feel the consequences of the dictatorships actions.

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              Most Chinese people have seen their standards of living improve over their lifetimes. I doubt we can say the same for Americans.

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    Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

    White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    Here’s the neat part, the murders will continue either way.

    Why should anybody shut up?

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    Man I hope that monster winds up in Leavenworth, or stood up in front of a firing squad, once adults take charge of things.

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      Holding people ACCOUNTABLE for Murdering Americans would be POLITICAL therefore we must FORGIVE and FORGET and Hope it doesn’t Happen AS BAD next Time!

      -LITERALLY The Democrats!

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      Democrats make Wilhelm II seem like a strong leader. They’d rather us end up in concentration camps than hold republicans accountable

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    “let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted”

    I don’t recall anyone enacting a law that said “round up brown people in concentration camps and kill protesters”

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            Might want to check the voting record on ICE establishment, support and funding there sport.

            Right up until well into the 2020s they were a bipartisan effort.

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              This reminds me of the “you know, the southern states who supported slavery were all democrats” rhetoric.

              ICE before 2024 was a completely different agency. Trying to argue that the democratic party is somehow to blame for Trump’s executive orders, the construction/creation of concentration camps over the last year, and mass hiring of a bunch of untrained white nationalists is an absolutely insane take.

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                  And Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, and Strom Thurmond was a Democrat, and Stalin was a seminary student! Before becoming an exiled Social Democrat! Oooooh!

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      Joe Biden spent a record amount on ICE camps while the threat of fascism was obviously clear.

      Obama not only discovered Homan, but awarded him with a medal when Homan devised a plan to separate migrant children from their parents at detention centers.

      Every single dem senator voted to confirm Marco Rubio, who has obviously been one of the biggest champions of "immigration enforcement.

      They’re not entirely wrong when they say the Democrats gave them a mandate.

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        I mean we have to acknolwedge that Rubio and Homan did not act back then the way they do now. A Christian Nationalist (Nat-C) movement electing a fascist president has a way of bringing the latent bigot out of people that may have been decent at suppressing it in the past.

        People across this nation have been experiencing that on a personal level with their family/friends for the last decade.

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        So is it just required to blame democrats for everything republicans do on your instance? You all never seem to miss an opportunity to criticize and blame Dems. Never mention republicans though. Fishy, that.

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          Why do y’all get so bruised when extremely valid critiques are leveled against the democrats?

          blame democrats for everything republicans do

          Uh, Joe Biden was not a republican. Neither was Obama. And it should be clear the Democrat senators are also not Republicans…

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            Nobody mentioned either party till you chimed in to bullshit that it’s all the Dems faults. Now this is where you call me blue maga or a zionist or some other dumb fucking out of pocket nonsense and call in the ml brigade and sockpuppets too boost your comment and downvote disagreement. Looks like you already got started on part of that.

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          Honestly? We don’t think Republicans can do any better, so we don’t try to change them. They chose their side a long time ago. They are the enemy.

          Democrats, we know you, we know that you can do better because sometimes you do. You share our values. Even if your political leaders are captured by capitalist interests, you cheer when they do the right thing. So it is very frustrating to us to see you choose wrong.

          It’s like being an Australian in the time of Trump. We are seriously worried and horrified about what’s going on in the USA, because you are literally our ally.