• Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Not the one you live in. Clearly. It’s closer to me than “a lot of stuff on the news” so I can’t be so flippant about it. But, I can understand how if they’re both just distant cries because the cops don’t target you, you fear the one that has been yelled at you more in the news.

    Edit: just out of curiosity I wanted to see the percentage of the population executed by China in a year. It’s .00017143%

    Cops in America kill .00038421% of the population every year. That’s more than twice as many. Ice disappeared 4,000 people this last year, before they changed how it was recorded on their website so we couldn’t track them like that anymore. That’s .00104167%, a whole order of magnitude more than China.

    Again, clearly it doesn’t involve you, so I’m sure you don’t care, but there’s the facts.

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      6 天前

      In real life China accounts for an estimated 50% to 70% of all executions in the entire world. It’s estimated because the actual number is not known, because China treats the number of people executed as a state secret. But it’s not disputed that China executes more people than all of the other countries in the world combined.
      in 2022, it’s estimated China executed 8,000 people.
      In 2022, there were 1,176 police shooting deaths in the United States.
      So yeah, those are the actual facts

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        6 天前

        Why compare raw numbers when China has over 4x the population? I mean, we know why you’re doing it, but will you say so?

        Anyway, 2022 was before the pedophile Nazis fucked the rails off the American system. Now compare numbers for 2025 for both countries and count every police street execution, and every human “missing” from ice custody. And use a third party for those numbers, don’t trust America’s reporting of it. Just like with China.

        Also, as an aside, I’d like to point out that China executes billionaires and corrupt party officials. Can you name a single billionaire or wealthy person or lifetime politician in America who has been executed? Can you name one who served 10 years in prison? How about 4 years? How about 2 years? In this decade? In your lifetime?

        The fact that anyone could look around at the pedonazifucks running America and having innocent teachers and nurses executed in the street without provocation or trial, and say bbbbb Choinah bad! Is crazy, and really points to the severity of the split between the type of Americans protected and served by this system, and the type of Americans crushed and destroyed by it.

        In real life.

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          6 天前

          Why compare raw numbers when China has over 4x the population?

          Because it’s wrong and misleading to try and claim that the police in the United states kill more people than the government of China executes, when in real life it’s less than a fourth.
          Also, we don’t even know how many civilian deaths from police occur in China every year, because they don’t even bother to record that information.

          I mean, we know why you’re doing it, but will you say so?

          I’m doing it becacuse what you’re saying is simply not true. I am in no way defending the police in America. ACAB. What I am saying is this idea that cops drive around and “shoot people for fun” is complete horseshit

          Anyway, 2022 was before the pedophile Nazis fucked the rails off the American system. Now compare numbers for 2025 for both countries and count every police street execution, and every human “missing” from ice custody. And use a third party for those numbers, don’t trust America’s reporting of it. Just like with China.

          America: 1,314 shooting deaths, according to Mapping Police Violence.
          China: Unknown, becasue China does not record how many civlian deaths are caused by police, because they’re a totalitarian dictatorship where such things that embarass the government are supressed.

          The fact that anyone could look around at the pedonazifucks running America and having innocent teachers and nurses executed in the street without provocation or trial, and say bbbbb Choinah bad! Is crazy, and really points to the severity of the split between the type of Americans protected and served by this system, and the type of Americans crushed and destroyed by it.

          Where exactly are cops going around, lining up teachers and nurses, and executing them in the streets? Are you referring to the victims that ICE have killed? You understand that ICE ARE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, right? I am not defending the police, or ICE, or the fascist pieces of shit that took over my country (ACAB.) What I am doing is saying that you’re out of your mind if you think the cops are just executing people in the street, and if you think it’s bad here then China is five times worse.

          I’m sorry China sucks and that conflicts with your ideology, but I’m under no obligation to abide this bullshit.

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            6 天前

            Lol, all the china heads shit talk america against me and all the american heads shit talk china against me. Because y’all both know your country sucks, and all you can do is shit on the other one.

            I’m not defending a Chinese or Communist ideology. I hold neither. I’m saying America and China are fascist, rapacious, colonizing, genociding, horror shows. While you’re trying to say America isn’t as bad as China, to make yourself feel better about your team of colonizers.

            The best part has been watching over the last year as America goes mask-off. The America heads used to just label every source counter to their narrative, “enemy propaganda” and every fact too obvious, “the past”. This leaves very little, like the fact that America has the world’s largest prison population by far, but they’re mostly POC so no America heads care.

            Now though, it’s the present, the source is your eyes and ears all around you, and you end up “not counting” what you see and hear.

            'the cops don’t shoot people for fun that’s preposterous! Why I never, oh wait, wait wait wait wait wait, do you mean ice? Oh yes yes they’re doing that but I don’t count them.'🤣🤣🤣

            'China doesn’t even record those statistics because they are a fascist dictatorship who doesn’t record things that embarrass them. Yes, I know ice and the current federal regime are doing that too, but again I don’t count them’🤣🤣🤣

            Ice and fascists didn’t take over your country. This, right now, is what America has always been, just not for your people. You chose to ignore that, calling it history or “enemy propaganda” but ya can’t ignore that no more. Oh wait wait wait wait wait, you are still doing that.

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              6 天前

              I’m not defending a Chinese or Communist ideology. I hold neither. I’m saying America and China are fascist, rapacious, colonizing, genociding, horror shows. While you’re trying to say America isn’t as bad as China, to make yourself feel better about your team of colonizers.

              You’re claiming cops in America drive around and kill people for fun. I am simply stating the facts that this is not true.

              Why I never, oh wait, wait wait wait wait wait, do you mean ice? Oh yes yes they’re doing that but I don’t count them.

              They aren’t cops, I am correct about that. That’s why they can be arrested and charged for shooting people if the states would quit being so chickenshit and fight back.

              Ice and fascists didn’t take over your country.

              Yes, they did. There is no “My people,” there is just Americans. We’re all in this together whether you want to beleive that nor not.