• WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    That’s actually really helpful, sorry about being a dick. I don’t have the important context of like, actual music scenes (I’m just some nerd), and it makes sense that people would sort of get more “serious” about it then they are… Like powerscaling but for music.

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      10 months ago

      Also personally, when I talk music, I know what I like and am passionate about by the general measure of what people enjoy in music is so far removed from my tastes that the diy punk music scene that has been a huge part of my life that it is considered by most to be objectively bad music and by any metric that music is measured, it totally is. So there’s both a scrappy underdog thing and a massive sense of irony going on.

      Like, not only is this what I listen to but know encyclopedically, participate in, and has influenced who my friends are, how I dress, act and talk since I was 13. Some music has subcultures as well, and punk is mine to the core, even though I’m less precious about it as I grow older, it’s the biggest part of who I am. And the music sounds like…this

      So when it comes to punk, it’s less a musical thing and more of a subculture war thing. I’ve got beef with folk punk kids.

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        10 months ago

        Ah, I’m misreading intonation, it’s not “folk punk is bad”, it’s “folk punk is bad”. I’ve seen people be very weird about punk before so my response might make more sense with that context. It makes perfect sense to have beef with something that is pretty much entreating on your subculture or feels like it’s co-opting it somewhat.

        Also I apologize for comparing to powerscaling, that was a grievous and horrific insult and I do not think it is possible for me to make up for that

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          10 months ago

          I don’t know what powerscaling even is tbh. It’s also petty sectarianism that isn’t really taken seriously person to person toooooooo much. At the end of the day we’re all allies in what matters and are more silar to each other than the rest of the world. And folk punk isn’t completely an incursion, the roots are there from the start with the pogues and the pub rock roots of early British punk, and if anyone even tries to deny that Mischief Brew or Against Me (up to and including As the Eternal Cowboy, I’m iffy after) isn’t just really good tunes I’d have a hard time believing them, I also really like This Bike is a Pipe Bomb. It started as dirty punks writing acoustic songs to busk with and make cash and became the new Ska, a refuge for privileged band geeks but this one combined 1930s train hoppers with modern crusty squatters in a way that was cool until.tom waits fans got involved (no shade to.tom waits himself there)