Opera used to be a fantastic web browser, with a custom high-performance Presto rendering engine and features like tabbed windows that didn't show up in competing browsers until years later. However, the modern Opera browser is a shadow of its former self, reliant on chasing trends and meme advertising to
    • NightAuthor@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      I just need someone to implement dragging tags out immediately into windows, with my tiling window manager (fancyzones) I have to pull out the Firefox tab, let go so it’ll spawn the actual window, the drag it again to where I want it.

      I tried getting into the weeds of the code, but there’s a lot there, it’s buried behind like 2/3 other standing issues that no one is working on…. For like 10 years

      Edit: excuse me, 14 years

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
    583·
    10 months ago

    I used Opera until they bailed on Presto in 2013. I then switched back to Firefox and I’ve been using it since.

    Just use Firefox or one of its derivatives if you care about the open web. It has real ad blocking (uBlock Origin extension), is fast, and basically all the features you’d expect from a browser. Give it a whirl, you’ll probably like it.

    • Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
      27·
      10 months ago

      It’s made by a lot of the original Opera team, including the founder. They have some nifty features that either require an addon in Firefox or are unavailable. Tab tiling is the one that I miss almost daily when I’m using Firefox.

      They are an innovative group that often pioneers features that eventually trickle down to other browsers. Although it’s based on chromium, it’s an excellent browser that offers better privacy than Chrome. They have done a great job building a browser that caters to power users but can also be configured to use a simplified UI similar to Chrome.

      If they had container tabs like Firefox it would be my favorite browser hands down. They have profiles like Chrome that work much better than Firefox profiles, but each profile is a separate window whereas container tabs can be mixed in a single window.

      • Blizzard@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        And Vivaldi for Android is also great. It has an actual tab bar with tabs you can move around, stack on each other etc. (among other things). Totally recommend.

  • BB69@lemmy.world
    279·
    10 months ago

    As soon as Opera was acquired by the Chinese company, I told everybody to dump it ASAP.

    Reddit said I was ignorant and racist because I had “no proof” that the new company was doing something wrong

    • corbin@infosec.pubOP
      3010·
      10 months ago

      I mean, yeah, just leaving it at “china bad” is still xenophobia. Tech companies in the US and other countries can be just as shady.

      • JackLSauce@lemmy.world
        323·
        10 months ago

        “Chinese bad” is xenophobia

        “China = surveillance state” is the most basic of common sense

      • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
        9·
        10 months ago

        Yeah it’s very easy to misinterpret that as sinophobia and not a repeat behavior of chinese capitalists buying stuff out then sucking them dry. Especially when you put it next to actually sinophobic shit like what happens with discussions of Tencent and DikDok being evil spyware. It’s reddit; people are just going to assume you’re racist unless you show otherwise, because that’s usually a safe bet.

          • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
            23·
            10 months ago

            It’s no worse than other social media which is also evil spyware. Did you notice how all the hysteria went away the instant the US managed to broker a deal that would allow them access to the data they were harvesting? It was always about sinophobia, not privacy.

            • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              That’s a bit reductionist and too overgeneralised. I don’t use either TikTok or Facebook (or the like) because they send data to governments, none of which I trust, not the US, China, or any others. Also, disliking/being scared of the government of a country is not the same as disliking the people in that country, being against the CCP is not sinophobic.

              • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
                11·
                10 months ago

                disliking/being scared of the government of a country is not the same as disliking the people in that country, being against the CCP is not sinophobic.

                A lot of reddit racists do say that as a cover I hope you’re aware. If something absolves you of racism and costs nothing to do, racists are going to do it to so that they can get away with more overt racism. I can tell you’re full of shit because you used the wrong acronym. CCP is the dogwhistle one.

                • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  disliking/being scared of the government of a country is not the same as disliking the people in that country, being against the CCP is not sinophobic.

                  A lot of reddit racists do say that as a cover I hope you’re aware.

                  Are you claiming that I’m racist because I said something you admit isn’t actually racist?

                • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
                  11·
                  10 months ago

                  Of course you would be pro China, you’re from lemmy.ml. Marxist Leninism, when there is a leader in ‘Communism’ is no different from a dictatorship. I am in favour or more anarchic style socialism where there is a decentralised effort to provide for everyone. China - specifically the Chinese ‘Communist’ Party - is not that.

      • BB69@lemmy.world
        94·
        10 months ago

        lol it was obvious when a random Chinese company purchased what was going to happen.

  • otacon239@feddit.de
    9·
    10 months ago

    I remember back in high school, this was the browser to have on your flash drive. So many built-in tools that were normally entire separate programs. It had an email client, BitTorrent, download manager, FTP client… all sorts of tools so you didn’t have to keep them all updated and portable separately.

    It was a sad day when all of that started getting stripped out just to end up like every other Chromium copy on the market.

    Been on Firefox ever since they took away my grid home screen.

    Goodbye, my once good friend.🫡

    • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
      303·
      10 months ago

      Why are you including Safari in this? It’s such a bad browser, doesn’t even allow you to hard reload or get debug info on iOS.

        • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          If my computer is an Apple Mac, sure. It isn’t, so I can’t inspect it. Unlike Firefox, where I can inspect it by connecting it to any computer with adb installed.

  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
    81·
    10 months ago

    It still seems to be the only browser on my phone that will reflow the text after I zoom a page. To whoever is about to tell me what I should have already known about that also does that, thank you!

    • StorageB@lemmy.oneEnglish
      51·
      10 months ago

      Opera has had this functionality for 10+ years on their mobile browser, and I would argue that it has always been their best feature by far as it has always worked beautifully. I just don’t understand how no other browser has implemented this feature.

    • Joël de Bruijn@lemmy.ml
      41·
      10 months ago

      👌👌👌 Always liked text reflow after zoom very much! !!!

      Like it was responsive before responsive was a thing. Behaviour only native to epub afaik.

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    4·
    10 months ago

    The decline of Opera has prompted von Tetzchner, after a monumental anger, to create Vivaldi, to continue with the original philosophy of ancient Opera. For lovers of the old Opera, the other alternative is the Otter Browser, which also tries to recreate it.

  • DessertStorms@kbin.social
    4·
    10 months ago

    I used it for a while but then one update it completely reset not only all my (many) open tabs, but also my history, so I couldn’t restore them. Not used it since…

  • UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world
    3·
    10 months ago

    I tried using opera years ago before they switched to the blink engine. I uninstalled it right after installing it and finding out that it made itself the default browser without asking me.

    • Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      I had the same. I installed it and realised that it had imported my Chrome bookmarks. I didn’t purposely choose that, so was pretty annoyed, but thought that maybe I’d missed a check box. When I realised that it had made itself my default too, I uninstalled it.

      I reinstalled it a while back to try again and to test a website I was making, and after one update I launched it and it played a really loud sound. It was late at night and my kid was in bed in the room above me. Because I wasn’t expecting any sound, never mind anything that loud, I panicked and didn’t turn the volume down in time.

      After I got my kid back to sleep I uninstalled Opera permanently.