• stankcheez@lemmy.world
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    possibly the worst Supreme Court decision ever handed down - and there are a whole shitload of awful SC decisions - strictly b/c it was immediately apparent to anyone with two brain cells to rub together how it would enable and entrench corruption and influence in American politics

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      possibly the worst Supreme Court decision ever handed down

      Perhaps, but you’re going up against the classics. Dred Scott. Plessy v. Ferguson. Korematsu.

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        Also, Citizens United was only the latest in a long series of bad decisions that gradually elevated sociopathic artificial entities over natural persons.

        • Dartmouth College v Woodward
        • Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad
        • Dodge v Ford Motor Co.

        etc.

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      yeah it is the absolutely biggest improvement that could be made (outside of ousting the current administration) but I can’t see it being done currently.

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    Citizens United will be remembered as that one time John Roberts accidentally destroyed the United States because of his hubris. A really cool dude, that John Roberts.

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      It wasn’t an accident. There’s a great podcast called 5-4 that has gone through some of the worst decisions in history. They talked about Citizens United, and how Roberts had to stretch the truth to come to that decision. He’s done that a lot, he does the Roberts two-step, when he first upholds a law that he doesn’t like, but makes up some shit about how there are “questions” about it, and then his allies in the broader Conservative movement then bring a lawsuit that specifically targets one of those “questions” so that Roberts can overturn the law.

      Thomas does something similar, except it’s even more egregious, he will write an unhinged dissent or concurrence that makes bonkers legal arguments that may or may not be fully related to the case at hand, and then when he’s up to write for the majority, he’ll cite his own arguments in those dissents and concurrences. Those documents have zero legal weight, but he cites them as if they were settled law.

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        It’s crazy to me that there isn’t some kind of scientific review process when they write these things up. Formal logic has been worked out for centuries and you can just look at the math to confirm what they’re saying makes any sense at all.

        It wouldn’t solve all problems but some of these recent rulings are so divorced from reality that they’ve left logic in the dust.

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      Actually, one of the many times John Roberts accidentally purposely destroyed the United States because of his hubris.

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      The best argument for time travel is our ancestors somehow already knew a toilet should be called “the John.”

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    It would be a massive win for all of us peons just trying to survive while our gov actively tries to kill us.

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    You can’t end citizens united without first overturning Buckley v Valeo

    If we do this, please don’t half ass it.

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    Is someone handing out drugs? There is no way that is happening. Not without massive legislation and likely some convictions.

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    Im gonna call this now.

    If on some chance the supreme court strikes down SpeechNow because of this, they’ll somehow stay it until after the next general election as its “too soon” and “too hard” to change it now.

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    So I have mixed feelings.

    So obviously it’s a bad thing. But. Because it’s now legal to bribe. We know who is getting bribed easily.

    Once it becomes illegal again it’s going to be harder to know who is getting bribed.

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      If only it were legal, bank robbers wouldn’t have to wear masks. Then we would know who’s doing it.

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        I think I have been misunderstood. I should have said. The silver lining is now we see clearly how many politicians are sellouts. And we know their names.

        I definitely think Citizens United was one of the worst things that happened to this country.

        I only remark that now we know something we didn’t know before. We suspected. But now we literally have receipts.

        I worded my first comment poorly.