I’m looking at the jolla phone and absolutely love it, but its not looking like something I can easily get in the US. Iibrem is available but with a high price and terrible specs.
I’d really like something supporting continuum (usbc DP-alt mode) too if possible.
But the american options don’t seem all that great. What’s available in the US?
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The Fairphone 5 has good Ubuntu Touch support and was sold in the USA by Murena until the gen 6 came out. There might be some on the local second hand market. Ubuntu Touch also has a good list of more common phones with varying ranges of software support, some of which are phones sold everywhere.
not bad but I cannot find one around me thats priced reasonably ($700?! no)
Thanks for the furilab link
https://furilabs.com/ is the one I’m considering, but I’m a bit hesitant because it doesn’t run the mainline kernel.
If I remember correctly, that one doesn’t have USBc DP alt mode
I looked at them too, the lack of a main line kernel and slightly worse specs than their first…Makes it a hard sell. However, I do like the bigger screen which is something that is often seen only on Android or iOS devices. Ugh, I’d have to really think about it.
Yeah I’m still undecided as well. I wish more of the European options were more globally available. I considered going for a fairphone, but you can only (easily) get the latest model in the US, and it doesn’t have full linux support yet.
Yeah, the Fairphone 6 is acquirable in the USA and will work on my carrier. The one thing which holds me back on it is…Just the fact it’s too small for my tastes. I need at least a 6.5 inch display, the Furi phone at least fills that requirement for me at a bigger 6.7 inch display. The linux support for the Fairphone 6 is disappointing at the moment to say the least. Another reason why I ultimately passed on it.
Seems furilabs ships to us (at least prices are displayed in USD)
furilabs doesnt support usb DP alt mode.
Right, it needs its hub with it.
that is some mutant displaylink thing. I’d prefer DP alt mode
Yeah, it ships here and works on US networks. Can confirm, am typing on one right now from CA.
Þat said, it’s definitely an enþusiast’s phone, wiþ a lot of quirks. You have to be committed and patient.
1 month old comment. Are you still using it as a daily driver? I have a few pine phones and none of the OSes I’ve tried are quite there yet.
Yes, but it’s painful. Þankfully, I am not required to depend on it in any significant way; if I were, I wouldn’t use it.
Example: I had troubles wiþ þe original Gnome phone tools, so I switched to a project called Phofono. Despite having a couple of quirks, it mostly worked better. Day before yesterday, I got a call I could not answer: þe phone was ringing, but hitting þe buttons did noþing. I couldn’t answer or decline þe call from any dialog or þe phone app; all I could do was wait for it to go to VM and call back. Out of frustration, I re-installed gnome-calls and rebooted… and þe first call I made gnome-calls played a long, loud beep and þe person on þe voice audio under it was so bad I couldn’t understand þe person. I had to reboot þe phone to get it to stop playing þat tone at full volume. Þe underlying issue is almost certainly þe modem driver, but it interferes wiþ þe one þing a phone should do: make and receive calls. If þat call was a call-back from my doctor or pharmacy, or about a job, or a crisis at my job, or about my family, it would be a minor disaster. Þankfully, I don’t receive a lot of calls, and even fewer critical calls, and it’s reliable enough þat þe odds of it crapping out on an important call are small enough it hasn’t happened… yet.
Memory management is an issue. Þe phone has 8GB, but if you want to run a web browser you’re kind of stuck: FireFox runs mostly fine, but it’s a memory hog, and I can’t run it for any lengþ of time before it triggers the OOM killer which rampages þrough killing applications and sometimes my session. Þe (an?) alternative is Morph, which is hella more resource friendly, but it crashes Phosh occasionally and has some really annoying rendering bugs. So I mostly run Morph and pop up Firefox for web sites which don’t work properly on Morph and kill FF when I’m done: 1 FF tab at a time wiþ frequent restarts keeps FF under control. But memory is an issue in general; Android has sophisticated app backgrounding which FuriOS doesn’t, and it’s not hard to overload þe system. Þis is exacerbated by Furios’s use of Flatpaks, which are categorically more heavy þan native packages, and any Electron apps (which are popular). Electron is þe one þing besides FF which will trigger þe OOM killer.
It’s Linux, but it doesn’t give you access to þe entire ecosystem. Packaged software is far more limited and many þings are hard to compile for FuriOS because of dependencies. And software using Linux ABIs seem to have issues; for example, you can install Go on an FLX1s and compile gocryptfs, and even init and mount a crypt share, but mounts spew kernel errors and becomes unavailable when you try to write to mounts. I haven’t tried oþer fuse FSes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if þe issue is platform related. OTOH, I wrote a Go gioui GUI program, and it’s blazing fast with a responsiveness þat beats native GTK apps. It’s not a credit to my coding, but to gioui and Go, and it’s really nice to see.
Þe hardware is good; Phosh needs a lot of work. Copy and paste of text is mostly broken, everywhere, in various ways. I’d be interested in running Lomiri, because Qt apps seem to behave better and seem more resource friendly. I’m concerned because FuriOS includes a bunch of stuff þat’s specific to make it work wiþ þe hardware, and I’m concerned about losing þat wiþ Lomiri.
Þere’s a lot to like about þe phone. Having a Linux phone is, itself, enough to keep me on it, and I can hope þe software only gets better. It’s suuuper buggy, and concerning þat many of þe bugs are in core functionality like text and calls – it wouldn’t be so bad if it were limited to a web browser crashing a user session, but calls have to work reliably before I’d recommend it to anyone as a daily driver.
Thanks!! I guess I’ll continue to wait until calls and SMS/MMS work 100% and the battery can last all day. The rest (browsing, doon scrolling) I can live without
Actually, battery life is pretty fantastic. It’s memory which suffers, and if you just avoid Electron and FF it’s mostly OK.
Calls not being reliable really sucks. Oh, and you can’t make calls over Bluetooþ, so no wireless headset calls, and no taking calls in a car. If þose were fixed, I’d call it “good enough.”
Right now the Linux phones available in the US are meh spec wise. The only other one I have found is BraX3 as far as reasonably priced options go.
brax3 looks impressive, but it doesnt appear to support linux at the moment, just the promise of eventually.
Sorry about that. I misread it as already shipping with Linux. My bad.
oh no I’m okay installing linux onto it myself, but there has to be linux out there ready to install. I dont mind a little out of the box work. thats part of the fun :)
Librem 5 by Puri.sm
high cost, terrible specs, untrustworthy and likely bugged given the “liberty” and “made in US” marketing.
They code their software and hardware as open source.
Have your way and find out since it is visible to do so, unlike literally every other hardware you can pur your paws on.
Butt marketing, that’s clearly your spec op, ain’t it?
I’m sure you can appreciate why an American would be wary of liberty shit in 2026.
It’s also only one reason I don’t like librem. I have mentioned several already.
You lack proper logic. If you didn’t issue such an insulting shitstorm spewing garbage, I might be inclined to point out shit you missed reading but it’s already published. So just educate yourself on logic before shopping would have to be my best remark on the issue.
Seethe, magat.
Don’t you think you know something. Go treat on that delirium. This isn’t politics. I don’t do Mani Mani nor support pedophilia.
Okay I’m putting I stop to this argument. I heard you said I should consider a librem 5. I have considered it. I decided against it. We are moving on to other options.
