Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

  • chloroken@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3617·
    6 days ago

    Sinophobia will get you nowhere. Those “Chinese State Actors” on the Fediverse are largely Western crackers who read theory and oppose Imperialism. You shouldn’t bogeyman an entire nation you don’t know anything about, this is xenophobic and also works against the working class.

  • Phoenix3875@lemmy.worldEnglish
    141·
    6 days ago

    I’m sorry to say that lemmy is not popular enough to be on CPC’s radar.

    The CPC’s propaganda budget is mostly focused on what Chinese people would read if they get over the great firewall (mainly YouTube and Twitter).

    Second to that is the general “feel good” stories, like scenery, food, or panda (recently high-speed trains), aiming at the mainstream Western public. You may see those on lemmy, but it’s very unlikely that the state propagandists are the ones posting them here.

  • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
    166·
    6 days ago

    One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors.

    As one of the moderators of !memes@lemmy.ml i encourage OP to look at the sort of posts i make and tell me - do you really think i’m a “Chinese state actor”?

    Do you think all these posts i make in, eg, !hoch@lemmy.ml and !goodnews@lemmy.ml and !badnews@lemmy.ml and !eleven@lemmy.ml… these are all part of a carefully-crafted cover, and I’m actually being paid by China to delete totally-not-racist posts depicting their president as a yellow cartoon bear?

    And for this service, to maintain my cover, they also pay me to create memes like this and this and this and this and this and this (and defending that one against less informed nerds) and this and this and this (a small sample of my OC here)?

    And do you think China paid for this understandable explanation of asymmetric cryptography using high-school level math, because someone asked, deep in a thread about a service which I’d also already debunked the snake-oil privacy claims of?

    Really?

  • rako@tarte.nuage-libre.frFrançais
    269·
    6 days ago

    Capitalist propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. Most big instances -generalist, tech or something are wholly controlled by bourgeois people who would rather uphold state violence than democracy. What do you think?

    • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      85·
      6 days ago

      I’ve been banned from several communities because I addressed the issues with slavery in China in a comment, and because I dared to critize the CCPs antiworker policies (like denying unions that dont align with what the leadership idea of the national interest).

      I can get some evidence in some of the time but then ill be sudenly banned.

      • king_comrade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        52·
        6 days ago

        Which communities are problematic? I’ve not experienced any censoring when I’ve argued with tankies in the past, even got away with using ‘red fascist’. I assume I’ve been blocked by a few folk tho aha…

  • murmelade@lemmy.mlEnglish
    187·
    7 days ago

    I love these posts, they’re always a treasure trove of accounts to block.

  • lofuw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    5 days ago

    Really? I thought it was just the opposite.

    Kind of weird how you’re posting this from .ml, though; one of the most propagandized instances in existence.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    103·
    6 days ago

    Chinese, Chinese, Chinese! Doesn’t anyone care about the Lithuanians and what they are doing!!?? /s

  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2617·
    7 days ago

    What’s rampant is imperial core propaganda. You see the “Chinese propaganda” as “rampant” because you’re used to seeing only imperial core propaganda, which is how the internet looks on corporate media, including corporate social media.

    Previously:

    The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

    The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’. This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

    The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

    None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.

    * I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before: