Dig a hole… but not next to the escarole!

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    You lost me at the part where your 1-liter bottles of oil at the landfill are somehow “seeping into the ground water.”

    First of all it’s in a plastic bottle which will probably take 5 generations to begin deteriorating;

    and second, If all landfill trash juice is seeping into the ground water, seems like a disgusting problem the municipalities probably already found treatment for. And what is ground water to us unless it’s being pumped to the surface & purified for use? Do you honestly suppose municipalities would source ground water from UNDERNEATH LANDFILLS?

    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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      1 day ago

      Lord help me if this is rage bait, because I’m 'baited.

      1. The water from underneath landfills gets sent to the wastewater treatment plant (maybe) which isn’t designed to treat hydrocarbons and then in ends up in your surface water, which I presume you value more than ground water.

      2. Maybe the wastewater treatment plant is on site and it probably gets less complete treatment than at a municipal plant.

      3. It’s also possible the dump doesn’t have a leachate collection system and it’s def ending up in the groundwater.

      4. Ground water doesn’t like…sit still?

      5. Also people have wells. The wells might predate the dump. Or they don’t know the groundwater is fucked and someone goes to dig a well and finds out the water is fucked.

      6. It’s not uncommon to build over landfills or build near them once they are ‘closed’. In 5 generations that might be a park.

      I worked on the remediation of petroleum site and they are still sucking hydrocarbons out of the ground 70 years later. Didn’t stop them from building on top of it in the meantime, though.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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      1 day ago

      That 1-liter bottle of oil isn’t going to stay a solid well contained, sealed bottle after it gets crushed by a trash compactor in the garbage truck.

      I’m not going to dox myself so I’ll admit that I probably send about 10 gallons of used oil to the dump every year now. I maintain several old vehicles and I also do a couple of oil changes for friends. And in my town, I know about five guys that do about the same.

      The municipal dump is often designed to mitigate bacterial contaminants. The site is probably lined with some sort of plastic or rubber barriers to contain and control waste water and either treat it or evaporate it all and turn everything to solid waste.

      The thing with used oil is that it reacts with rubber and plastics … it will break down those barriers over time if enough oil and similar chemicals get into the waste and percolate down to the rubber/plastic layer. Once those barriers are compromised, all the waste water chemical or bacterial and everything is now free to travel down to the ground water system which can affect water for miles around, depending on the geology and location. It can even tap into a local river, stream or lake and make the problem worse.

      You’re really making me think about sending those bottles of oil to the dump … I’ll probably stop that and think of getting rid of the oil some other way now. I was just doing it to be lazy … now that you’ve made me think about it more, I should figure out a different solution.