Capitalism needs poverty, which is why it creates poverty
And why dems okay not addressing it or letting what limited help they do expire
Democrats have never been concerned about easing the struggle of the working class. Their purpose is to pacify the working class with meaningless gestures, and hollow platitudes
Thank you tyrannitar
Oh Tyrannitar of the burning trashpile horizon. What other wisdom do you dispense?
Erm. I think Im in the wrong place.
Can I just say… and hear me out… capitalism doesnt create poverty.
Ok ill leave.
Perhaps that is true. But the system capitalism thrives on created poverty. Thus, cause and effect become indistinguishable.
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=walmart+welfare+workers
Regional effects may be to blame, like famine of old, for sure. But in the modern world, capitalism blocks attempts to end poverty, by all means possible: wage suppression, lobbying against health care reform, and against consumer advocacy, and against unions, just to name a tiny fraction.
Billionaires can’t exist without poverty. Buying power demands this. Consumers only spend so much, can only spend what they earn.
Profit comes only from the spending power of the masses, as a general rule. To take a greater share, someone has to take a lesser share.
Fantasies abound of a financial world where this rule does not apply, yet all but a smidgeon of finance rests on commodities, utilities, rent, and consumer spending, sitting at the bottom of the pyramid of cards, or maybe just a scheme.
More markets? More growth. Sure, let’s see that end poverty. The end of poverty is to lessen the share of the rich. It is just common sense.
Yeah, your right, there is no reason for capitalism to create poverty except to reduce upwards pressure on wages. Also, it’s a good thing that some people are billionaires. Clearly, the billionaires deserve to be billionaires and the people in poverty deserve to be in poverty. /S
Sigh. Such intelect. Truly astonishing.
Love how you failed to spell intellect correctly.
Lmao.
Yawn
Thanks, I try not to show it off too much. Glad you learned something.
capitalism doesnt create poverty.
How? It’s entire design is to extract all the wealth from the bottom to funnel to the top? Especially in our current system where the only thing that matters is short term profits and continuous growth.
Hell monopoly was created to show how terrible the system was by making the point driving everyone else into bankruptcy
Just look up the definition of poverty. Poverty is bound to exsist in any society where there is scarcity. Thats just… survival.
Which capitalism uses to break people down for others profits. Don’t do what the rich say hello being unhoused, or unable to feed yourself and family or just unable to get medical attention.
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Lol no
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Well, to be fair, comunism also created poverty.
Maybe it’s the shity humans that get elected (or not), that create poverty, not necessarily the system
No. Capitalism punishes socialism systems (communism never existet) so poverty can rise even in them.
The main problem of humankind is capitalism.
Government is the legislative arm of capitalism. Capitalism is designed to concentrate wealth at the top at the expense of the working class.
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What’s your opinion on NATO?
Is NATO fighting against poverty now?
Banjo has told me he wants Mexicans kept in cages because they committed crimes. Ignore anything they say.
They think when Republicans do it, they’re evil. When Democrats do it, it’s moral and just.
It’s just interesting to see what they’ll say today.
Or interesting when they suddenly stop after flawed logic pointed out in their silly attempt to score points
The same old tired bullshit, unable to read anything that doesn’t agree with them.
https://lemvotes.org/comment/lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21667688
I mean they downvote and act like that’s a response to “please treat humans with dignity and respect”
In their mind if not with them then aren’t worth respect
Why else would they be for the removal of anyone they disagree with and/or committed crimes?
NATO is preventing war and the expansion of authoritarian states across the globe, so yes, in a roundabout way, it is.
And what a great job they’re doing! There’s definitely no double standards here, oh no. *cough Israel *cough.
NATO only acts to prevent the expansion of the United States’ rival imperial powers, like Russia and China. It’s nothing more than a military alliance of western powers to maintain US hegemony. It’s all well and good that it resists and deters Russia imperialism in Europe, but it has zero interest in stopping US imperialism in the middle east as carried out by the US’ favorite proxy state and stationary aircraft carrier, Israel. NATO isn’t attempting to maintain peace in Europe out of a genuine desire to protect human life, but simply to preserve the status quo and balance of power.
And if you’re wondering how Trump wanting to leave NATO fits into all this, it’s precisely because NATO preserves the balance of power. He thinks he can benefit from destabilizing the political climate of the world because he’s a scumbag who takes advantage of chaos to advance his interests, and he doesn’t care if other authoritarian leaders are able to do the same. The US could lose global standing, but that’s a risk he’s willing to take if it helps him consolidate power internally.
Israel literally is not a member of NATO. Another nation could invade Israel right now and it would NOT trigger a NATO response.
NATO members Itally and Spain sent NATO Military forces to protect the Gaza Aid Flotilla recently. https://www.newsweek.com/nato-warships-protecting-gaza-convoy-against-israel-attack-greta-thunberg-10786877
Neither was Libya but that didn’t stop NATO from destroying it
NATO members Itally and Spain sent NATO Military forces to protect the Gaza Aid Flotilla recently. https://www.newsweek.com/nato-warships-protecting-gaza-convoy-against-israel-attack-greta-thunberg-1078687
Well that’s what everyone hoped was happening but now it’s just there for rescue efforts after the attempt to
intimateget them to give the aid to Israel failedhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-flotilla-italy-spain-000441922caa2c88cf73203e83d3e6e2
Defense Minister Guido Crosetto urged the flotilla to offload aid instead in Cyprus, suggesting Italy and the Catholic Church could deliver it safely to Palestinians. He emphasized that Italy couldn’t guarantee the flotilla’s security once it entered another country’s waters, noting Israel might view it as a “hostile act.”
By that logic trump is good because he’s fighting against China
Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.
Again your logic was anyone fighting authoritarians = good and fighting poverty.
Trump uses the excuse of fighting China to fuck up the economy with tariffs that not only does nothing to hurt China but only screws over the American economy. But since it’s fighting China it’s therefore good by your logic.
Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.
None of that is at all relevant to why you claim NATO is fighting povert. Or why that logic can then be used to imply trump good
You seem confused about how my question relates to the meme? It’s a litmus test for whether or not a person is the sort of Tankie who supports China sending Uyghurs to work camps until they die, who supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, who supports Pig Butchering Scams and Psyops which get people like Trump elected. If you wonder if a person actually opposes capitalism or actually just opposes western democracies, you can ask them their opinion on NATO and they will clear up any confusion.
And what does that have to do with your logic saying trump is good?
Also a weird purity test for someone that wants a big tent party.
It’s not as tasty as nattō
So you support the world’s largest mutual defence pact?
Yes.
NATO is the European arm of US imperialism
Lmao
The correct answer.
Capitalism creates new products that get rids of the old products that it doesn’t need anymore. It’s constantly evolving. Rule of the fittest… So about those poor people, now that the autocrats have been elected… mmmmhhh
But let’s be honest, communism just ignores that products are important…
Under capitalism you get the product that will generate most money for the shareholders, while disregarding all else. Not the product that you want or need, sometimes you even get the exact opposite and are confident that you want it more than all else, and gladely will pay money for said uneeded unwanted proudct, cause they took away your ability to think clear. Enjoy these last few years while it all crumbles down.
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Capitalism creates nothing except the need for constant consumption, labor creates everything. We can live without capitalism, capitalism can not survive without us.
