• QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    Hanging a door isn’t placing the door on it’s hinges, rather, it is making the frame that the hinges are attached to. Making a frane that is the correct size, fits perfectly and leaves little gap with the floor is a lot of work.

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      11 days ago

      My point stands, aligning the damn thing in all directions and managing to integrate it with walls that definitely aren’t straight is a lot of work.

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        11 days ago

        And doors are the hardest part to do that with. A grown man can hold most windows together with their hands whereas no human can by themselves hang a door. It is harder to do doors from scratch than any other normal part of a home’s interior.

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          11 days ago

          I’ve installed hundreds of frames and hung accompanying doors by myself.

          Tools exist for this purpose

          And it’s funny you mention windows by yourself, that’s the one task that actually requires more than one person because of their size… even if you use a crane, there’s a second person for the crane. You also need someone inside to wedge and shim it, while it’s attached from outside, it’s not secured from the inside.

          • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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            11 days ago

            If you are constructing your own frame, which in the USA is going to be wood you don’t need a crane. You only need a crane if you are installing massive windows.

            these homes were built without cranes how do you think they got windows to begin with?

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              11 days ago

              these homes were built without cranes how do you think they got windows to begin with?

              With a crew of 6-12 guys… not by themselves lol.

              Huge bay windows were popular decades ago, but now we know how incredibly inefficient they are, so they use smaller panes and make a design.

              And no, wood frames aren’t used in the us, they rot, almost exclusively vinyl or metal, and if wood, it’s metal clad wood…. Wood expands with the tempature and moisture, cracks windows like nobody’s business. There’s a reason why they haven’t been used for a couple decades now.

              • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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                11 days ago

                Ok you keep talking about modern construction and Im talking historic construction. Not every home had bay windows because many could not afford them. The standard bedroom window in several of my homes over the decades were entirely constructed of wood as metal clad windows weren’t a thing pre-Civil War.

                Im guessing your construction experience is limited to a specific part of the USA and it’s mostly newer construction. Im not talking about those homes.

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                  11 days ago

                  Unless the building is a registered heritage site, they aren’t going to put the same type of windows back in, they would modernize it, the cost savings on the insulation alone would recoup the cost in less than 10 years.

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                    11 days ago

                    HoAs can require using historic or approved replacement materials.

                    Many cities have warehouses of replacement materials that you can peruse, good will operates some even.

                    I can go get a replacement window for my 1920s home for dirt cheap at the warehouse whereas the replacement modern version is very much not dirt cheap.

                    I can put the old window framed window in by myself in an afternoon.

                    The person you’re talking to is literally saying old hats say the introduction of a modern building technique is amazing, idk why it’s in doubt.